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Photography

Wade
Re: Photography
try out at home with all light on at living room & kitchen.

shot taken with D5200 & 35mm f/1.8G under Aperture mode with f/8.0, Auto ISO not above 800 & shutter not below 1/10s. All photo taken under RAW file and direct convert without any adjustment.

I prefer without external flash. may i have your view and comment... :)



1/15s & Auto (ISO 720)





1/60s & Auto (ISO 800) with external flash





1/15s & Auto (ISO 560)





1/60s & Auto (ISO 400) with external flash

chriscentro
Re: Photography
Hi Wade



Any reason to use 1/15 sec? If you were shooting people, minimumly use 1/60 cos even if you dont cause camera shake, the people will move.



Use bounce flash whenever possible.



I hope you are not the main photographer for the wedding, you will need more practice first.
Wade
Re: Photography

"chriscentro"

Hi Wade

Any reason to use 1/15 sec? If you were shooting people, minimumly use 1/60 cos even if you dont cause camera shake, the people will move.

Use bounce flash whenever possible.

I hope you are not the main photographer for the wedding, you will need more practice first.


just try out and not sure which shutter speed is suitable?

I using the flash with the cover siting next to the flash; or should I use the internal tool instead of cover as show at pic?



chriscentro
Re: Photography

"Wade"

[quote="chriscentro"]Hi Wade

Any reason to use 1/15 sec? If you were shooting people, minimumly use 1/60 cos even if you dont cause camera shake, the people will move.

Use bounce flash whenever possible.

I hope you are not the main photographer for the wedding, you will need more practice first.


just try out and not sure which shutter speed is suitable?

I using the flash with the cover siting next to the flash; or should I use the internal tool instead of cover as show at pic?



[/quote]

I find those flash diffuser cover quite useless as it is too small to soften the light.

If I use flash, I would bounce it and sometimes pull out the white card (pull out from the flash) to "throw" some light forward.

Maybe this youtube video will help you understand better.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTlBpNrxNLk" false;
ivan
Re: Photography
Bookmarked.

Read if i ever get a dslr again.

Very gd!
Wade
Re: Photography
2nd try using manual mode with f/8, 1/80s & ISO800 without room light.

i need your comment to improve my skill as much as possible... :(



1/80s & ISO800





1/80s & ISO800 with flash on, pull out white card & bounced direct to the ceiling





1/80s & ISO800





1/80s & ISO800 with flash on, pull out white card & bounced direct to the ceiling

chriscentro
Re: Photography
Hi Wade



At home, no need to use ISO 800, go re-shoot at ISO 200 with bounce flash.
chriscentro
Re: Photography

"ivan"

Bookmarked.

Read if i ever get a dslr again.

Very gd!


zhun bo? how to bookmark ah?



have been taking watches photos everyday until sian, hopefully I can go out and do some real "shooting" today.

Shot this last evening, only have time for one shot

Wade
Re: Photography
f/8.0, 1/80s & ISO200 with bounce flash. I notice that the light have been soften.







chriscentro
Re: Photography
ya, not as bright, can dial in some more power on the flash unit or lower shutter speed to 1/50 - 1/60 secs. Btw, your flash is the 900 or 700 series?
Wade
Re: Photography

"chriscentro"

ya, not as bright, can dial in some more power on the flash unit or lower shutter speed to 1/50 - 1/60 secs. Btw, your flash is the 900 or 700 series?


I using TTL now or should i use M whereby I can select the 1/64, 1/32 or other. Flash is Speedlight SP-780.

btw, what does 1/1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64 & 1/128 mean? it is refer to the power of the shot out light?







chriscentro
Re: Photography
ya, those numbers are for manually choosing the flash power....usually TTL does the job but if it doesnt, power it up a bit.

Try to review your shot on the cam immediately after you take the photo, don't go home already then discover mistakes made, too late liao.
Wade
Re: Photography

"chriscentro"

ya, those numbers are for manually choosing the flash power....usually TTL does the job but if it doesnt, power it up a bit.

Try to review your shot on the cam immediately after you take the photo, don't go home already then discover mistakes made, too late liao.


i just try a few shot at 1/50s, f/8 & 1/1, 1/2 and 1/4. I notice that the more power on the flash make the photo darker. hope my understand is correct less number meaning more power of light been use.



btw if outdoor, does ISO100, 1/50s to 1/80 with not flash should be ok right?
chriscentro
Re: Photography
yes, 1/1 is full power, 1/128 is much lesser power....

google for the relationships (or triangle) between ISO, shutter speed and aperture, these settings affect the exposure of the shot.

Adding flash is adding another element that u need to learn to control, flash photography is not that straight forward.

I can understand why pro photographers use flash when taking events photos. But I'm not and don't use flash for events, as I'm not paid for it and I think i can afford to be more creative using just ambient light.
Wade
Re: Photography
shot taken at f/8, 1/50 & ISO200 with M setting on flash. I find that 1/4 should be ok and the more number up on the flash make the photo darker.



1/1





1/2





1/4

chriscentro
Re: Photography
ya, 1/4 looks right. Btw, didnt know Nikon has the SB780 liao, they are coming up with new flash models so fast!

Btw, if your D5200's built in flash can act as a commander, you can play with off cam flash, it's fun.
Wade
Re: Photography

"chriscentro"

yes, 1/1 is full power, 1/128 is much lesser power....

google for the relationships (or triangle) between ISO, shutter speed and aperture, these settings affect the exposure of the shot.

Adding flash is adding another element that u need to learn to control, flash photography is not that straight forward.

I can understand why pro photographers use flash when taking events photos. But I'm not and don't use flash for events, as I'm not paid for it and I think i can afford to be more creative using just ambient light.


lol i not pro and there is a pro main photographer for my bro-in-law wedding. I just only take for my practice and keeping purpose.

btw, how abt outdoor setting? ISO100, 1/50s to 1/80 with not flash should be ok right?
Wade
Re: Photography

"chriscentro"

ya, 1/4 looks right. Btw, didnt know Nikon has the SB780 liao, they are coming up with new flash models so fast!

Btw, if your D5200's built in flash can act as a commander, you can play with off cam flash, it's fun.


hehe, the flash is not from Nikon. a brand name as Q-mini Speedlight SP-780 suitable for Nikon... :( not $$$ buy nikon flash, so get a OEM to fit the job.
chriscentro
Re: Photography

"Wade"

[quote="chriscentro"]yes, 1/1 is full power, 1/128 is much lesser power....

google for the relationships (or triangle) between ISO, shutter speed and aperture, these settings affect the exposure of the shot.

Adding flash is adding another element that u need to learn to control, flash photography is not that straight forward.

I can understand why pro photographers use flash when taking events photos. But I'm not and don't use flash for events, as I'm not paid for it and I think i can afford to be more creative using just ambient light.


lol i not pro and there is a pro main photographer for my bro-in-law wedding. I just only take for my practice and keeping purpose.

btw, how abt outdoor setting? ISO100, 1/50s to 1/80 with not flash should be ok right?[/quote]

actually very difficult to answer your question, it depends on the light at your location at that time. Like I say, look at your cam's LCD to check exposure.



SInce you are not the main photog, my view is don't use flash, just up your ISO to attain sufficient shutter speed. Another thing, learn to manually set the white balance especially when you are indoor and not using flash.
chriscentro
Re: Photography

"Wade"

[quote="chriscentro"]ya, 1/4 looks right. Btw, didnt know Nikon has the SB780 liao, they are coming up with new flash models so fast!

Btw, if your D5200's built in flash can act as a commander, you can play with off cam flash, it's fun.


hehe, the flash is not from Nikon. a brand name as Q-mini Speedlight SP-780 suitable for Nikon... :( not $$$ buy nikon flash, so get a OEM to fit the job.[/quote]

oh man, they did a good homage!
chriscentro
Re: Photography
May be our Chef bro can come in and give your some other tips too as I find that he is quite technical minded when he commented in this thread.
Wade
Re: Photography
now i try with f1/8, 1/60 & ISO100 with M setting on flash. which photo should be ok?



1/4





1/8





1/16





1/32





1/64





1/128

chriscentro
Re: Photography
actually it doesnt matter, i took the darkest one and brighten it up



go out and shoot some real subjects better
Wade
Re: Photography
@christcentro, I notice that there is many selection and hope my understand is correct



incandescent = indoor



fluorescent = indoor



direct sunlight = outdoor



flash = it is ok to use with bounce flash



cloudy = outdoor



shade = outdoor



pre manual
chriscentro
Re: Photography

"Wade"

@christcentro, I notice that there is many selection and hope my understand is correct



incandescent = indoor



fluorescent = indoor



direct sunlight = outdoor



flash = it is ok to use with bounce flash



cloudy = outdoor



shade = outdoor



pre manual


Yup, that should be it. Personally, I've never used any of these presets.

Most of the time in Auto WB but I will manually set the WB in incandescent lighting as auto mode would probably render the image too orangey.
chriscentro
Re: Photography
just read the review on your D5200. These are 2 of the PROs



* Excellent low ISO performance in both JPEG and Raw files

* Class-leading noise performance at high ISO sensitivities



This makes me want to reiterate, no flash photography :D

Use your 35mm f1.8 lens and go around shooting it at f1.8 and enjoy the shallow depth of field (that's why we buy DSLR, to me at least)
Wade
Re: Photography
ok will get change and go out shot at f/1.8 & f/8.0 with ISO100 & 1/50 to 1/80.

will update the shot when i back home
chriscentro
Re: Photography

"Wade"

ok will get change and go out shot at f/1.8 & f/8.0 with ISO100 & 1/50 to 1/80.

will update the shot when i back home


haha, I'm going out now too with 2 lenses 35 and 50mm.
Wade
Re: Photography
Outdoor is diff setting, arrrh...

Now using 1/400, f/8.0 & ISO100. If i select 1/60, it too bright.

Btw, what shutter speed is suitable for outdoor?
TheChef
Re: Photography

"Wade"

Outdoor is diff setting, arrrh...

Now using 1/400, f/8.0 & ISO100. If i select 1/60, it too bright.

Btw, what shutter speed is suitable for outdoor?


Shutter speed depends on your subject and the effects that you want to show. Bro, just hoot lah and see for yourself. Hoot first talk later also applies to photography.
Wade
Re: Photography

"TheChef"

[quote="Wade"]Outdoor is diff setting, arrrh...

Now using 1/400, f/8.0 & ISO100. If i select 1/60, it too bright.

Btw, what shutter speed is suitable for outdoor?


Shutter speed depends on your subject and the effects that you want to show. Bro, just hoot lah and see for yourself. Hoot first talk later also applies to photography.[/quote]

Ya, true enough. Have to shot and see then will know what shutter speed is suitable.

Just finish at Chinatown, now heading to Tampines to collect Hakkaido Rockmelon.
galaxy_convoy
Re: Photography

"Wade"

Outdoor is diff setting, arrrh...

Now using 1/400, f/8.0 & ISO100. If i select 1/60, it too bright.

Btw, what shutter speed is suitable for outdoor?


Like TheChef said, depends. But generally, higher shutter speed is "better" as it reduces camera shake from hand held shooting. Should be at least 1/Focal Length. If you shooting with a 50mm, 1/60 would be the slowest. In bright sunlight, 1/400 sounds correct. No disadvantage compared to 1/60 so I think can go ahead and use those settings.



If the picture is too bright, you can compensate with the other 2 key settings, ISO and aperture. ISO should be as low as possible to reduce noise, although DSLRs are usually Ok with up to 800. Outdoors ISO should be 100 to 200.



If you're using a 1.8, then keep the aperture around 2.0 to take advantage of the wide aperture. The bokeh and shallow DOP would be good for portraits especially.



Worst case scenario, use exposure compensation. I'll usually go -0.3 or -0.7 in bright sunlight.
TheChef
Re: Photography
There are so many variables and dependencies in photography. This is what makes photography so interesting.
galaxy_convoy
Re: Photography

"TheChef"

There are so many variables and dependencies in photography. This is what makes photography so interesting.


Yup. The basic trinity of shutter speed / aperture / ISO will keep you busy for a long time.
TheChef
Re: Photography

"galaxy_convoy"

[quote="TheChef"]There are so many variables and dependencies in photography. This is what makes photography so interesting.


Yup. The basic trinity of shutter speed / aperture / ISO will keep you busy for a long time.[/quote]

White balance, depth of field, sharpness, composition, contrast, etc. also.
galaxy_convoy
Re: Photography

"TheChef"

[quote="galaxy_convoy"]


Yup. The basic trinity of shutter speed / aperture / ISO will keep you busy for a long time.


White balance, depth of field, sharpness, composition, contrast, etc. also.[/quote]

Confirmed. I brought up those three as they are the main ones to control the amount of light entering the lens. I've always felt they need to be considered together in and form the basics of SLR photography.
Wade
Re: Photography
D5200 with Nikon 35mm f/1.8G on Manual mode at f/8.0 on street shots from Chinatown to Tampines.



1/400 & ISO100 under daylight





1/400 & ISO100 under daylight





1/400 & ISO100 under daylight





1/320 & ISO100 under daylight





1/320 & ISO100 under daylight





1/100 & ISO100 outside Tampines mall





1/320 & ISO100 at Tampines interchange





1/100 & ISO100 under daylight





1/100 & ISO100 under daylight





1/100 & ISO100 under void deck





1/320 & ISO100 under daylight





1/320 & ISO100 under daylight





1/100 & ISO100 under daylight





1/320 & ISO100 under daylight





1/60 & ISO100 under shelter walkway





1/50 & ISO100 under daylight





1/50, ISO200 & bounce flash M 1/16





1/50, ISO200 & bounce flash M 1/16

chriscentro
Re: Photography
wah not bad leh as you are using Manual mode.
chriscentro
Re: Photography
Went to Beach Road/Haji Lane this afternoon...



Wade
Re: Photography
[quote="chriscentro"]Went to Beach Road/Haji Lane this afternoon...



May I know what setting is this?
chriscentro
Re: Photography
here u go



Edit: I was sitting outside the coffee shop, in shade but some sunlight hit part of the bowl, that's why can see some shadow area.

I used aperture priority (as usual) in this shot. Unless the lighting condition was very challenging then I would use full manual.
Wade
Re: Photography
D5200 with Nikon 35mm f/1.8G on Manual mode at f/1.8 on street shots from Chinatown to Tampines.



1/50 & ISO100 at chinatown hawker center





1/400 & ISO100 along walkway at chinatown complex





1/320 & ISO100 under shelter at Pearl center





1/800 & ISO100 under daylight





1/320 & ISO100 under shelter of Outram MRT





1/320 & ISO100 under shelter walkway to Tampines interchange





1/320 & ISO100 under daylight





1/50 & ISO100 under bus-stop shelter





1/320 & ISO200 under cloudy





1/320 & ISO100 under cloudy





1/50 & ISO100





1/100 & ISO200 with bounce flash at M 1/16





1/100 & ISO200 with bounce flash at M 1/16

Wade
Re: Photography

"chriscentro"

here u go



Edit: I was sitting outside the coffee shop, in shade but some sunlight hit part of the bowl, that's why can see some shadow area.

I used aperture priority (as usual) in this shot. Unless the lighting condition was very challenging then I would use full manual.


so mostly you are using Aperture mode? do u set the ISO manual? and u can't change the shutter speed right under Aperture mode?
chriscentro
Re: Photography
bro wade, most of your subjects are right in the middle of the frame....try the 1/3 rule for better composition even though these are just test shots :)
chriscentro
Re: Photography

"Wade"

[quote="chriscentro"]here u go



Edit: I was sitting outside the coffee shop, in shade but some sunlight hit part of the bowl, that's why can see some shadow area.

I used aperture priority (as usual) in this shot. Unless the lighting condition was very challenging then I would use full manual.


so mostly you are using Aperture mode? do u set the ISO manual? and u can't change the shutter speed right under Aperture mode?[/quote]

ya, actually, I wonder why you start with manual mode, use aperture mode first, let the camera decide the shutter speed, if too low, just up your ISO manually to get higher shutter speed. See my prawn noodle, the prawn eye is on 1/3 of the frame.
softup
Re: Photography
Bro Chris,

Yr pics jin sharp ... U used fixed Len arh ...
Wade
Re: Photography

"chriscentro"

bro wade, most of your subjects are right in the middle of the frame....try the 1/3 rule for better composition even though these are just test shots :)

lol bored right as all in the middle of the frame. I heard of 1/3 rule...any photo to show me as example?
chriscentro
Re: Photography

"softup"

Bro Chris,

Yr pics jin sharp ... U used fixed Len arh ...


yes, i cannot tahan f2.8, too slow haha
softup
Re: Photography

"chriscentro"

[quote="softup"]Bro Chris,

Yr pics jin sharp ... U used fixed Len arh ...


yes, i cannot tahan f2.8, too slow haha[/quote]

Nikon 35mm f1.8G len ?
chriscentro
Re: Photography

"Wade"

[quote="chriscentro"]bro wade, most of your subjects are right in the middle of the frame....try the 1/3 rule for better composition even though these are just test shots :)

lol bored right as all in the middle of the frame. I heard of 1/3 rule...any photo to show me as example?[/quote]

ok, 1/3 rule









BUT, sometimes you can break the rules

rule