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Tokkotai Project's Presentation

DAGUE
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"Evirobie"

Any outcome for my case?

3 days waiting answer to 2 emails :evil:
roo7
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Got my tracking, SingPost shows it's already on it's way.. hopefully I get to see it later :lol:
Evirobie
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
Still waiting for mine. Sigh.



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roo7
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It's delivered but I'm not in office to receive it argh. Oh well. Wait for it then.





Shouted across the road.
ivan
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"roo7"

It's delivered but I'm not in office to receive it argh. Oh well. Wait for it then.





Shouted across the road.


Congrates.

1st in sgp



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roo7
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
2014-06-04 14:25 Item posting PP Zielona Góra P802

2014-06-04 17:55 Package sent PP Zielona Góra P802

2014-06-05 01:23 Item arrived WER Warszawa

2014-06-05 09:14 Package sent from Poland WER Warszawa

2014-06-09 13:06 Package acceptance SINGAPORE

2014-06-09 17:41 Package released by the customs office SINGAPORE



Pretty fast shipping, I must say. 6 days.









Shouted across the road.
roo7
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
If you got your tracking number, you can monitor from here, if it's still on Poland: http://emonitoring.poczta-polska.pl/?lang=en" false;
roo7
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"DAGUE"

[quote="Evirobie"]Any outcome for my case?

3 days waiting answer to 2 emails :evil:[/quote]

Hi,



Can I ask a favour ?



Can you share all the links to the main project threads ? Especially those with photos of the drawings, prototype :)



Like to archive it.
balzebub71
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"roo7"

2014-06-04 14:25 Item posting PP Zielona Góra P802

2014-06-04 17:55 Package sent PP Zielona Góra P802

2014-06-05 01:23 Item arrived WER Warszawa

2014-06-05 09:14 Package sent from Poland WER Warszawa

2014-06-09 13:06 Package acceptance SINGAPORE

2014-06-09 17:41 Package released by the customs office SINGAPORE



Pretty fast shipping, I must say. 6 days.









Shouted across the road.

The box jin swee, i like to collect watch boxes i think.... :shock:
Cosmograph
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
I just got mine and have to say, a nicely designed piece. However it is severely disappointing that such a simple product can be so poorly executed to reach the consumer. These opinions are after having taken part in a number of forum projects which do not come anything close to what I have seen with this.



1) Extremely CRAP(well virtually non existent) communication from the watchmaker which makes it hard for the co-ordinator of the project.

2) Extremely poor timeline in sending out the pieces,150 pieces over the course of 2 months is Ridiculous.

3) Can't get the basics right on order completion.

4) Crown pull/push is weak. Does not instill any confidence and need several tries before clicking back( this with using a NH35-seiko's 4R hand winding and hackable movement)

5) Pre dated warranty. (most micros or direct sales don't usually do that, instead they end up giving more warranty which is nothing to them)



Pros



1) Reliable movement which is easy to source should the product fail to perform as expected.

2) Good presentation & design.





And hence my overall disappointment with this brand. Personally, they have some nice designs but with this sort of CS from what has been experienced, I have to say one need not bother as I would not. However, I suppose one can always find supporters regardless, just not me.
atossg
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
Just arrived ... And enjoying it :lol:





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TheChef
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
All grievances are gone after I received the piece tonight. Thanks to bro Ivan for helping me order and deliver. Worth the one year wait. Last but not least, thanks to Dague for sharing information on this project.
DAGUE
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"roo7"

[quote="DAGUE"]
3 days waiting answer to 2 emails :evil:


Hi,



Can I ask a favour ?



Can you share all the links to the main project threads ? Especially those with photos of the drawings, prototype :)



Like to archive it.[/quote]
of course:

http://www.clubokies.com/f74-proyecto-tokkotai
Evirobie
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
Mine just got posted out ytd from Poland. Seriously, I would not order any watch from Gerlach no matter what.



Super bad services.
TheChef
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"Evirobie"

Mine just got posted out ytd from Poland. Seriously, I would not order any watch from Gerlach no matter what.



Super bad services.


This means you can collect at the end of the month. Btw the workmanship of the watch is good. It is accurate too.
balzebub71
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"atossg"

Just arrived ... And enjoying it :lol:





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Looks good, but would have preferred a manual hand wind movement since the crown is huge...





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TheChef
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
Not sure whether I can implant a manual hand wind movement from a donor watch into this watch. Hmmmm....
roo7
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"balzebub71"

[quote="atossg"]Just arrived ... And enjoying it :lol:





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Looks good, but would have preferred a manual hand wind movement since the crown is huge...





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Screwed down crown thou.. Not suitable for manual. Didn't expect a 200M resistance for this.





Shouted across the road.
doinkydoink
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"Evirobie"

Mine just got posted out ytd from Poland. Seriously, I would not order any watch from Gerlach no matter what.



Super bad services.

They have this upcoming that looks interesting. Bad idea?

TheChef
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"doinkydoink"

[quote="Evirobie"]Mine just got posted out ytd from Poland. Seriously, I would not order any watch from Gerlach no matter what.



Super bad services.

They have this upcoming that looks interesting. Bad idea?

[/quote]

Sensuitai? :lol:
ivan
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"doinkydoink"

[quote="Evirobie"]Mine just got posted out ytd from Poland. Seriously, I would not order any watch from Gerlach no matter what.



Super bad services.

They have this upcoming that looks interesting. Bad idea?

[/quote]
simi lai eh?

pm me link can bo?

thank you!



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TheChef
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"ivan"

[quote="doinkydoink"]
They have this upcoming that looks interesting. Bad idea?


simi lai eh?

pm me link can bo?

thank you!



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Got information on G Gerlach new Polish Submarine Watch project. Polish Sensuikentai :lol: I am watching this project.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/G-Gerlach/166503366747205
ivan
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"TheChef"

[quote="ivan"]
simi lai eh?

pm me link can bo?

thank you!



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Got information on G Gerlach new Polish Submarine Watch project. Polish Sensuikentai :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/G-Gerlach/166503366747205[/quote]
looks gd.

but I think I pass.

neck a bit sore now.

cannot tahan another 15+mths.





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TheChef
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"ivan"

[quote="TheChef"]


Got information on G Gerlach new Polish Submarine Watch project. Polish Sensuikentai :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/G-Gerlach/166503366747205

looks gd.

but I think I pass.

neck a bit sore now.

cannot tahan another 15+mths.





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This one will be ready made for hooting in early 2015 according to Gerlach.
ivan
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
8-)

"TheChef"

[quote="ivan"]
looks gd.

but I think I pass.

neck a bit sore now.

cannot tahan another 15+mths.





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This one will be ready made for hooting in early 2015 according to Gerlach.[/quote]
ha ha





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doinkydoink
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
Some info from watchuseek.



http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?p=7912535



Like the antique look. Not sure worth the lengthening of my neck. But if the price is right... Look see first. Anyway cannot order yet.
TheChef
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"ivan"

8-)[quote="TheChef"]


This one will be ready made for hooting in early 2015 according to Gerlach.

ha ha





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Their England is a bit cheem. Not sure whether ready made or prototype ready by early 2015, after I read again. If only prototype, maybe need to wait until Christmas 2016.
ivan
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
8-)

"TheChef"

[quote="ivan"]8-)

ha ha





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Their England is a bit cheem. Not sure whether ready made or prototype ready by early 2015, after I read again. If only prototype, maybe need to wait until Christmas 2016.[/quote]
ha ha ha .....

1 time experience is ok liao.





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roo7
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
Reminds me of the first version of Vostok amphibian.









Shouted across the road.
roo7
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"ivan"

[quote="TheChef"]


Got information on G Gerlach new Polish Submarine Watch project. Polish Sensuikentai :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/G-Gerlach/166503366747205

looks gd.

but I think I pass.

neck a bit sore now.

cannot tahan another 15+mths.





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Plus it's on the market place before arrival :lol:
balzebub71
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
Talking about amphibia.. Any cheap place to hoot the new radio room dial style version with stainless steel case?



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ivan
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"roo7"

[quote="ivan"]
looks gd.

but I think I pass.

neck a bit sore now.

cannot tahan another 15+mths.





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Plus it's on the market place before arrival :lol:[/quote]

never saw that coming.

when I did, I simply lost all my interest in this watch



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Evirobie
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
At least you guys got yours... Mine still dunno where.



I think if I get the second hand from WUS, it would be even faster or rather I would be enjoying the watch now... :evil: :evil: :evil:
balzebub71
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"Evirobie"

At least you guys got yours... Mine still dunno where.



I think if I get the second hand from WUS, it would be even faster or rather I would be enjoying the watch now... :evil: :evil: :evil:

But I think WUS used will be more expensive than buying new from Gerlach..





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roo7
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"balzebub71"

Talking about amphibia.. Any cheap place to hoot the new radio room dial style version with stainless steel case?



Sent from my Redmi


http://www.meranom.com/" false;
Evirobie
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"Cosmograph"

I just got mine and have to say, a nicely designed piece. However it is severely disappointing that such a simple product can be so poorly executed to reach the consumer. These opinions are after having taken part in a number of forum projects which do not come anything close to what I have seen with this.



1) Extremely CRAP(well virtually non existent) communication from the watchmaker which makes it hard for the co-ordinator of the project.

2) Extremely poor timeline in sending out the pieces,150 pieces over the course of 2 months is Ridiculous.

3) Can't get the basics right on order completion.

4) Crown pull/push is weak. Does not instill any confidence and need several tries before clicking back( this with using a NH35-seiko's 4R hand winding and hackable movement)

5) Pre dated warranty. (most micros or direct sales don't usually do that, instead they end up giving more warranty which is nothing to them)



Pros



1) Reliable movement which is easy to source should the product fail to perform as expected.

2) Good presentation & design.





And hence my overall disappointment with this brand. Personally, they have some nice designs but with this sort of CS from what has been experienced, I have to say one need not bother as I would not. However, I suppose one can always find supporters regardless, just not me.


Just got mine, was wondering if all of you guys got the blue black strip nato strap?



I agree with the following points.



4) Crown pull/push is weak. Does not instill any confidence and need several tries before clicking back( this with using a NH35-seiko's 4R hand winding and hackable movement) - The pull is ok but the push is really bad. Need to push a few times for it to catch back.



5) Pre dated warranty. (most micros or direct sales don't usually do that, instead they end up giving more warranty which is nothing to them) - Mine was suppose to be send out in June, they din even bother to change the start of the warranty from 30th May to 30th June. Though I paid on time and they din manage to get the process right. Super disappointed.



To add, the hour and minute hand was not perfect, can see the clear line where the lume end on the hands and there are one dot or dust on the hour hand lume which make it like not a smooth hand. I would rather they lume the whole hand then to see the line. I feel the line on the hour and minute hand is very glaring.



The only pro is that the finishing on the case and crown is pretty well done, but the original strap is abit suede in feeling hence I wonder would it last.
Evirobie
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
Hi guys,



Please take care of your Tokkotai caseback. This is what happened to mine after a few days of wearing. Found when I was changing strap just now.



I though the caseback was made of Stainless Steel but I wonder how the pitting occurs.



1) Pitting at the word "CRISTAL"





2) Pitting at the A of "TOKKOTAI"

Jeryltan
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"Evirobie"

Hi guys,



Please take care of your Tokkotai caseback. This is what happened to mine after a few days of wearing. Found when I was changing strap just now.



I though the caseback was made of Stainless Steel but I wonder how the pitting occurs.



1) Pitting at the word "CRISTAL"





2) Pitting at the A of "TOKKOTAI"

pitting means the surface wear off?





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Evirobie
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"Jeryltan"

[quote="Evirobie"]Hi guys,



Please take care of your Tokkotai caseback. This is what happened to mine after a few days of wearing. Found when I was changing strap just now.



I though the caseback was made of Stainless Steel but I wonder how the pitting occurs.



1) Pitting at the word "CRISTAL"





2) Pitting at the A of "TOKKOTAI"

pitting means the surface wear off?





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The pitting / black spots look like corrosion to me.
DAGUE
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"Evirobie"

[quote="Jeryltan"]pitting means the surface wear off?





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[/quote]
All the case is made of stainless steel, and the case back included of course.

I contact them.

Jose
Jeryltan
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"Evirobie"

[quote="Jeryltan"]pitting means the surface wear off?





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The pitting / black spots look like corrosion to me.[/quote]hmm ok. That's sound bad.
DAGUE
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
After of see the photo for me don't looks corrosion… have you tried to clean it with water and soap? :?:

Jose
TheChef
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
Looks like dirt to me. Clean it.
Evirobie
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"TheChef"

Looks like dirt to me. Clean it.


"DAGUE"

After of see the photo for me don't looks corrosion… have you tried to clean it with water and soap? :?:

Jose


Of course, I did clean it up then took the picture . Even with alcohol swap. This is definitely clean.



It is those type similar to black pitting you will find on vintage cases.
pacman1188
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
Could come from contamination during stamping or machining process. If pitting occurred, then may have to passivate to stem further corrosion.
DAGUE
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
HI!!!

Two months after... What's up with the tokkotai??
Evirobie
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
My Tokkotai still with Gerlach... Sigh.



~~~Delivered personally by the minions~~~
Cosmograph
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"DAGUE"

HI!!!

Two months after... What's up with the tokkotai??




Worst Watchmaker on earth! It's an overpriced paper weight for me. Still need to fix which I won't be sending back as I probably will never see the watch ever again. Well, he did a fantastic job of showing how poor Polish products are, that much I give him. :lol: :lol: :lol:
atossg
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation

"Cosmograph"

[quote="DAGUE"]HI!!!

Two months after... What's up with the tokkotai??




Worst Watchmaker on earth! It's an overpriced paper weight for me. Still need to fix which I won't be sending back as I probably will never see the watch ever again. Well, he did a fantastic job of showing how poor Polish products are, that much I give him. :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]
What happened to your piece?
2BHIGH
Re: Tokkotai Project's Presentation
if its indeed pitting then it is impurities in the metal during forming process.

Possible solution is to re-buff and polish off if its not too deep.