Re: omega speedy pro on sgroc
Happy holidays kqxr :D because I read your inputs attentively, because I had my fair share of speedies and because I agree with this...
"kqxrseiko"
Disclaimer* All opinions are merely my own biased ones lol :D
... let me continue the conversation in good spirit :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
"kqxrseiko"
(1) Avoid all automatic speedmasters. Speedmaster Professional aka the moon watch is the only one worth collecting.
I agree that for
collecting, especially with a view to value retention or appreciation, the Pro (especially a well-priced used one) is the one. Automatic speedies can be had for below 2k used, if disassociated from the whole speedmaster snobbery and considered as just another swiss automatic chronograph, they are hardly poorer value than a longines, tissot, louis erard, ball, tag heuer and so on. So yes, for collecting I would aim a used Pro (a new Pro will still depreciate sharply just like an Auto in my experience), but if someone is in the market for a nice used swiss chronograph below 2k, it is worth his/her time and money to take a look at the automatic speedies in the used market. Still better than most Balls and Tags and Guess' in my biased opinion. :mrgreen: Not everyone stops at one speedy... we all need other speedies to buy after we get our standard Pro right?
I assume Big-E is in the market for ONE speedy (at least for the time being) though, so the basic Pro it has to be then.
"kqxrseiko"
(2) Avoid paying over the top money for Limited Edition Speedmaster Professionals. Over the years Omega as released tons of limited edition moon watches, all of which are mostly dial variations and case back variations. You can get a good condition moon watch that will never go out of style for around 2.3~2.6k.
I agree with this, but it is a truism isn't it? By definition all Pros are mechanically similar, and hence all LEs are cosmetic variations. I still want a Snoopy LE though - as long as my wife likes it, it will never go out of style. But the over-the-top prices have been putting me off :cry:
"kqxrseiko"
(3) If you want to distinguish yr moonwatch from run of the mill ones. I would suggest the Patch 50 Anniversary Edition. IMHO this is one of the best looking moonwatches around. The MTM is actually a number edition and in all honesty the planets on the subdials dont look that nice in real life.
I'd say go with whichever edition that fires up the imagination. For me the MTM and the Snoopy work a bit better on my imagination than the Patch 50. If we are allowed to expand the selection beyond the Pros, the non-7750 Racing CF that I own is actually my favourite Speedy. The disassociation with space travel, disassociation with schumacher (I'm not into F1), and just basic generic association with motorsports (red + racing + CF + chronograph + "speedmaster") captured my heart very well.
I bought this
shortly after I bought this
and up to today the CF still matches this :mrgreen:
"kqxrseiko"
Automatic speedies are bad investments and lack the horological significance and durability of the moon watch =p .
I agree. They are bad but there are worse for the same money :lol: :lol: :lol:
In my biased opinion, auto speedies above 2k are bad investments (no matter how strictly or loosely we use the term), just like majority of the offerings from Tag, Ball, Guess, Longines, Sinn, Cyma, Titus, ...., and boutique brands below 2k. A lot of watches in the market at the price range of used auto speedies do not have horological significance (again in most sense of the term) either. Ceteris paribus people still buy Balls and Sinns and Guess and that's as good a reason as any for me to not rule out automatic speedies.
There are simply worse ways to spend the same money. :lol: :lol: :lol: