Panerai GMT

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Hi guys



I saw this Pam GMT in a 2nd watch shop's window. It's a discon model right?

I tried my best to peep at the price tag and it seemed to say $89xx.

I think it's nice and not too big.

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No idea about pams...have zilch ownership experience, but sure got scs bro here that collect pams?



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this model caught my eye...so just trying to find some info on it...
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Looks like pam159, size should be 40mm. However, I wouldn't advice u getting a pam.



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"ivan"

Looks like pam159, size should be 40mm. However, I wouldn't advice u getting a pam.



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No la, not getting it, just learning only :mrgreen:
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Hehe actually there are also a lot of people that advise me not to buy Pam....



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"balzebub71"

Hehe actually there are also a lot of people that advise me not to buy Pam....



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Add me too.

Pls dun buy.

Cheers.



Huat ah



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+1 to not to buy, even though I like to see people hoot watches.
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I think for that price there are better gmt models to consider.





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"big-e-294"

I think for that price there are better gmt models to consider.





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Can recommend a few?

I wanna learn too.

:)



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I don't know.

I'm sure there are. 8k wor!





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"big-e-294"

I don't know.

I'm sure there are. 8k wor!





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RRP and actual selling price always got different one what.



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"ivan"

[quote="big-e-294"]I don't know.

I'm sure there are. 8k wor!





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RRP and actual selling price always got different one what.



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Then u say lor.

I have to go research first.



A GS gmt comes to mind though ;)





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"big-e-294"

[quote="ivan"]


RRP and actual selling price always got different one what.



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Then u say lor.

I have to go research first.



A GS gmt comes to mind though ;)





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:D



I find a watch to flip before I buy then.



:D



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"ivan"

[quote="big-e-294"]


Then u say lor.

I have to go research first.



A GS gmt comes to mind though ;)





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:D



I find a watch to flip before I buy then.



:D



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U can 1 la



Huat ah!





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"big-e-294"

[quote="ivan"]


:D



I find a watch to flip before I buy then.



:D



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U can 1 la



Huat ah!





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I think can......

Can I borrow some money?

:P



Huat ah



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I won't get it either. It might sound odd but I feel that the only PAM that I think has the DNA of the brand is the unitas base PAMs
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haha, points noted, bros!
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First off, I must say I am never overly fond of Panerai



At the risk of starting a war.. can anyone tell me why not Panerai apart from just plain don't like. Is it aesthetics, movement, size...I know of people who swear by them and people who hate them. This brand seems to garner more polarized views than others. So just wanna learn a bit more.



Thanks.
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Ya me curious too. Y not pam? I,ve been eyeing the 312. I tot pam quite good resale value?





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Before buying pam, I advice pple stop looking too much into the movements.



If you are looking at a big, simple yet elegant design, I think you wont go wrong with the pams.



Is a love hate relationship thou. Some models with their in house movement, can hold their price very well, some dont. And their models r way too many and they look almost identical that I feel is 1 of their downside.



If you wanna buy, read up more on the web as there are too many articles for you to digest before you make the plunge.



There will always b 2 diff camps of pple for whatever watch you r going to buy. So, unless u r disturbed, then you can decide on ypur own.



Cheers





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Don't like PAM, due to design, perhaps quite a few of my colleagues own PAM and they look too large on their wrists, male and female included. They wear bigger than their actual size. Not suitable for me and at their price range lots of other choices.



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"ivan"

Before buying pam, I advice pple stop looking too much into the movements.



If you are looking at a big, simple yet elegant design, I think you wont go wrong with the pams.



Is a love hate relationship thou. Some models with their in house movement, can hold their price very well, some dont. And their models r way too many and they look almost identical that I feel is 1 of their downside.



If you wanna buy, read up more on the web as there are too many articles for you to digest before you make the plunge.



There will always b 2 diff camps of pple for whatever watch you r going to buy. So, unless u r disturbed, then you can decide on ypur own.



Cheers





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"balzebub71"

Don't like PAM, due to design, perhaps quite a few of my colleagues own PAM and they look too large on their wrists, male and female included. They wear bigger than their actual size. Not suitable for me and at their price range lots of other choices.



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What do you think of the 312? It,s tbe cheapest with in-house movement right?

Altho i like iwc but i,ve got those entry level 1s alr and their 7 days model abit expensive fr me. Lol. But i agree many of the pam design look very similar



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"Jeryltan"

[quote="ivan"]Before buying pam, I advice pple stop looking too much into the movements.



If you are looking at a big, simple yet elegant design, I think you wont go wrong with the pams.



Is a love hate relationship thou. Some models with their in house movement, can hold their price very well, some dont. And their models r way too many and they look almost identical that I feel is 1 of their downside.



If you wanna buy, read up more on the web as there are too many articles for you to digest before you make the plunge.



There will always b 2 diff camps of pple for whatever watch you r going to buy. So, unless u r disturbed, then you can decide on ypur own.



Cheers





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"balzebub71"

Don't like PAM, due to design, perhaps quite a few of my colleagues own PAM and they look too large on their wrists, male and female included. They wear bigger than their actual size. Not suitable for me and at their price range lots of other choices.



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What do you think of the 312? It,s tbe cheapest with in-house movement right?

Altho i like iwc but i,ve got those entry level 1s alr and their 7 days model abit expensive fr me. Lol. But i agree many of the pam design look very similar



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I like ot too. the 312 sandwich dial with p9000 movement. The case is nice n big. Did I mention heavy?



Look for preowned bah.

Quite gd price for 3days reserved watch.





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"ivan"

[quote="Jeryltan"]






What do you think of the 312? It,s tbe cheapest with in-house movement right?

Altho i like iwc but i,ve got those entry level 1s alr and their 7 days model abit expensive fr me. Lol. But i agree many of the pam design look very similar



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I like ot too. the 312 sandwich dial with p9000 movement. The case is nice n big. Did I mention heavy?



Look for preowned bah.

Quite gd price for 3days reserved watch.





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Ya was look at preown but price not attractive le. Preown pple asking 7-7.5k but brand new i,m getting aroung 8.5-9k. Hm. But the relatively high preown price was what made ne interested in this model. Lol





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"Jeryltan"

[quote="ivan"]


I like ot too. the 312 sandwich dial with p9000 movement. The case is nice n big. Did I mention heavy?



Look for preowned bah.

Quite gd price for 3days reserved watch.





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Ya was look at preown but price not attractive le. Preown pple asking 7-7.5k but brand new i,m getting aroung 8.5-9k. Hm. But the relatively high preown price was what made ne interested in this model. Lol





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We can discuss this price thing privately.

:)



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"ivan"

[quote="Jeryltan"]


Ya was look at preown but price not attractive le. Preown pple asking 7-7.5k but brand new i,m getting aroung 8.5-9k. Hm. But the relatively high preown price was what made ne interested in this model. Lol





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We can discuss this price thing privately.

:)



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Oops sorry. Didn,t know it,s sensitive topic





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Panerai has been using outsourced movement for a long period in it's history(Rolex, Angelus, ETA ) so it doesn't really bother me that ETA movements are in some of the models. It's also the reason why I find the base PAMs reflects the DNA of the brand the best.



But at the price they are asking, I find the value proposition of the brand to be lacking. I was able to compare my previous PAM219 against an acquaintance's "made in shenzhen" 112, even comparing it up close (without a loupe) and apart from the usual telltale signs, I can say the differences are minimal. In fact, I think his 112 has a better AR than my 219 :cry:
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The design is nice but for the price I rather get a MM300 plus one tuna and maybe still got change to buy kopi



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"Solanum88"

Panerai has been using outsourced movement for a long period in it's history(Rolex, Angelus, ETA ) so it doesn't really bother me that ETA movements are in some of the models. It's also the reason why I find the base PAMs reflects the DNA of the brand the best.



But at the price they are asking, I find the value proposition of the brand to be lacking. I was able to compare my previous PAM219 against an acquaintance's "made in shenzhen" 112, even comparing it up close (without a loupe) and apart from the usual telltale signs, I can say the differences are minimal. In fact, I think his 112 has a better AR than my 219 :cry:


Oh ya.

Thats another reason for the con.

The fake r so many out there that I dont wear pam anymore. Actually lolex, AP .... oso got fakes. Ha ha ha.....



I m bias now











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"doinkydoink"

The design is nice but for the price I rather get a MM300 plus one tuna and maybe still got change to buy kopi



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Depends which mm300 & tuna u getting.



Ha ha ha



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"ivan"

[quote="doinkydoink"]The design is nice but for the price I rather get a MM300 plus one tuna and maybe still got change to buy kopi



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Depends which mm300 & tuna u getting.



Ha ha ha



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Baby steps bro. The rusty kind are way out of my league.





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"doinkydoink"

[quote="ivan"]


Depends which mm300 & tuna u getting.



Ha ha ha



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Baby steps bro. The rusty kind are way out of my league.





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Is patina bro.

Patina.

:lol:



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"ivan"

[quote="doinkydoink"]


Baby steps bro. The rusty kind are way out of my league.





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Is patina bro.

Patina.

:lol:



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:grin:



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"doinkydoink"

[quote="ivan"]


Is patina bro.

Patina.

:lol:



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:grin:



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I m lost for words.

You win



:D



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"Solanum88"

Panerai has been using outsourced movement for a long period in it's history(Rolex, Angelus, ETA ) so it doesn't really bother me that ETA movements are in some of the models. It's also the reason why I find the base PAMs reflects the DNA of the brand the best.



But at the price they are asking, I find the value proposition of the brand to be lacking. I was able to compare my previous PAM219 against an acquaintance's "made in shenzhen" 112, even comparing it up close (without a loupe) and apart from the usual telltale signs, I can say the differences are minimal. In fact, I think his 112 has a better AR than my 219 :cry:


bros, u hit the nail on the head...those are the reasons why i'm considering this



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"ivan"

[quote="doinkydoink"]




:grin:



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I m lost for words.

You win



:D



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No la. The one with the patina watches win.



Gong xi fa cai!



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I have a pam 390. I like it for its sporty look and simple dial. Uses an eta movement but I don't really care, all the better for finding a cheaper third party service when the need arises.



But to those who don't like it they may hiam dial too simple, watch too big, etc. if you like it just buy it. But similar to rolex not all models retain good resale value. Mostly base pans are in demand, like the 000, 005, 111, 112, etc.
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"ivan"

[quote="doinkydoink"]




:grin:



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I m lost for words.

You win



:D



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Neber thought I'd see the day that Bro Ivan is lost for words.. quickly go buy 4D Huat ah!
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Thanks for all the the replys from bros in scs..



They surely help muddy the waters even more.. :lol:



The distillate from all these, just buy Seiko lah.. Cheers.
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Somehow, I don't fancy a Pam either. And I am unable to give a reason why.



For that kind of price range, I would choose Rolex over a Pam.



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Wouldn't blame you. Many people can't get past the lure of good resale of rolex. Most of the time a rolex is usually more worth it die to brand recognition and good resale value
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"KKFA"

Thanks for all the the replys from bros in scs..



They surely help muddy the waters even more.. :lol:



The distillate from all these, just buy Seiko lah.. Cheers.


GS gmt ;)















But I'm biased. :D





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"big-e-294"

[quote="KKFA"]Thanks for all the the replys from bros in scs..



They surely help muddy the waters even more.. :lol:



The distillate from all these, just buy Seiko lah.. Cheers.


GS gmt ;)















But I'm biased. :D





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Noooo! You.. biased... I am shocked :shock:



Hehehe.. in this forum, I guess most are slight, ever so slightly biased..no?



I have all the GS GMTs showned here.............



Eer I mean have seen them. They are nice. The first is far too much like its homage by lolex the GMT II :D The second is nice but I liked the the third. The cream dial is delicious. like ice cream.



But at the time I had other priorities and the fact I already have the lolex homage, and other GMT watches, I had to give it a pass. Another time.



And I am not biased :D
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"big-e-294"

[quote="KKFA"]Thanks for all the the replys from bros in scs..



They surely help muddy the waters even more.. :lol:



The distillate from all these, just buy Seiko lah.. Cheers.


GS gmt ;)















But I'm biased. :D





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Noooo! You.. biased... I am shocked :shock:



Hehehe.. in this forum, I guess most are slight, ever so slightly biased..no?



I have all the GS GMTs showned here.............



Eer I mean have seen them. They are nice. The first is far too much like its homage by lolex the GMT II :D The second is nice but I liked the the third. The cream dial is delicious. like ice cream.



But at the time I had other priorities and the fact I already have the lolex homage, and other GMT watches, I had to give it a pass. Another time.



And I am not biased :D
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I agree that their watches look very alike and this is a negative point but I guess we should just buy what we like.



used to own pam 88 then flipped to pam 270 cos inhouse movement and it's 10 days PR. now this is my only travel watch. :)







cheers



james
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"Paladium"

Wouldn't blame you. Many people can't get past the lure of good resale of rolex. Most of the time a rolex is usually more worth it die to brand recognition and good resale value


But you see, I am contemplating to get a gs gmt. I would rather get a gs than a Pam.



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"KKFA"

[quote="big-e-294"]


GS gmt ;)















But I'm biased. :D





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Noooo! You.. biased... I am shocked :shock:



Hehehe.. in this forum, I guess most are slight, ever so slightly biased..no?



I have all the GS GMTs showned here.............



Eer I mean have seen them. They are nice. The first is far too much like its homage by lolex the GMT II :D The second is nice but I liked the the third. The cream dial is delicious. like ice cream.



But at the time I had other priorities and the fact I already have the lolex homage, and other GMT watches, I had to give it a pass. Another time.



And I am not biased :D[/quote]

I agree with what u said. It's true.



Just for those who don't know. The first gmt is actually the first GMT GS and was a Mastershop model. So in GS history, it's somewhat significant.



Second pic was a short production model. Jdm model ofcourse and the dial is actually a very dark brown... like shoyu.



Last one is best combo: ice cream dial w that wonderful heated steel blue gmt hand.... Yummo!

It's an international model for when GS was launched worldwide.





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Since this is a panerai gmt thread. I will only touch panerai even thou I m bery bery biased.



To me, only the fuss free dial, simi mah bo dial is the best.



End of day.

Buy if you suka.



Cheers!



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"KKFA"

[quote="ivan"]


I m lost for words.

You win



:D



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Neber thought I'd see the day that Bro Ivan is lost for words.. quickly go buy 4D Huat ah![/quote]

Quick.

Give me 4 numbers too.

I wanna buy.

:mrgreen:



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