Questions about marine master 300...

Questions about marine master 300...
Hi guys,



I am considering to take the plunge on a mm300. But I have a couple of questions I hope you guys can help me with.



1. How long is the recommended service interval?



2. Approximately how much will it cost to service? I read somewhere its $700.00 if you go to thong sia, and around $200.00 if you go to k2, correct?



3. Notwithstanding the price, is it hard to service a marinemaster? I hate to find years down the road that only thong sia can service! Are there any places where I can service a marinemaster.



Thanks in advance!
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Those are very valid concerns.



There's a long thread on MM300 ownership, it went through most of them. Let me dig that out. ;)
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Ah I found it :)



http://forums.seikoclubsg.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2698" false;
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Actually. Talkg abt svcg. Does ah goh really fully dismantle n clean every part n assemble back again? Bcos if he does, 200 would incredibly cheap n nt even sure be worth the time?

Or is it most 3rd party svcg is ard this px?



*edit. Oh nvm i just realise gnomon also ard this px. Lol



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Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Red Army charge $180 for 3133 manual chronograph movt :)



So I guess it's around there.





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Re: Questions about marine master 300...
I read through that thread already...but it didn't answer all my questions...



Anyway, I've been reading through other forums and came up with this. Bros please correct me if I am wrong



1. Service interval is 5-7 years



2.thong sia, k2, big time can service, price ranges from $100++ to $$700



3. Any other places where can service mm300?
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
I do believe the other alternative is if you purchase your watch from chino, higuchi or seiya, you can send the mm300 back to them to do servicing in japan.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Ic.



While goh servicing is more affordable, water resistance is another thing to consider.



IMO, intervals are subjective, depends if its a daily beater or a drawer queen.



Also depends it you want to wear it till symptoms shows like bad time keeping, or you service it proactively.





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Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"roo7"

Ic.



While goh servicing is more affordable, water resistance is another thing to consider.



IMO, intervals are subjective, depends if its a daily beater or a drawer queen.



Also depends it you want to wear it till symptoms shows like bad time keeping, or you service it proactively.





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I tot i saw a wr test machine at k2? But maybe nt until 200-300m ba





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Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Servicing a Automatic watch is important , $700.00 is a lot of $$ to spend on a MM300 service :o
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"MIKER"

Servicing a Automatic watch is important , $700.00 is a lot of $$ to spend on a MM300 service :o


Alternatively, buy a watch with less complicated yet robust movement like 6309. Costs only around $60 for full overhaul.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"TheChef"

[quote="MIKER"]Servicing a Automatic watch is important , $700.00 is a lot of $$ to spend on a MM300 service :o


Alternatively, buy a watch with less complicated yet robust movement like 6309. Costs only around $60 for full overhaul.[/quote]

But the casing and bezel etc etc on a mm300 are so much nicer than a normal seiko...
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
^^

$60 to $180 for a service or overhaul is reasonable .
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"Jeryltan"

[quote="roo7"]Ic.



While goh servicing is more affordable, water resistance is another thing to consider.



IMO, intervals are subjective, depends if its a daily beater or a drawer queen.



Also depends it you want to wear it till symptoms shows like bad time keeping, or you service it proactively.





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I tot i saw a wr test machine at k2? But maybe nt until 200-300m ba





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He won't use it. Think somebody asked him before.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Can service at Ah goh place then bring to thong sia for a water resistance test if cost of servicing is a problem.



Else send through thong sia back to Japan for servicing would be a more sound choice.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"roo7"




I tot i saw a wr test machine at k2? But maybe nt until 200-300m ba





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He won't use it. Think somebody asked him before.[/quote]



bubble just burst. I thought he have that machine and would make good use of it.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
I've been checking out the prices. $2800 ++ from Big TIme. From seiyajapan also $2800++ including GST. Cheapest is from shaggy angel. Only $2500!



Looking for feedback from bros, is he a reputable seller? What happens if got any warranty issue etc etc? I know seiyajapan is an AD so definately no problem.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Yes, shaggy angel's sold a couple of MM300's within Singapore and some to members here as well (not me). His reputation is considered good.



Do note, though, the warranty might not be utilizable in Singapore. Seiya's will likely be Japan-only, as most JDM's are. I'm not sure what Seiko's policy for Indonesia is, but catching a Lion Air flight to Jakarta's much easier than going to Tokyo! ;)
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
marinemaster is indeed one solid looking diver with heritage from its 300m grandpa. Think you wouldn't regret getting one.



evergreen classic..



we should revive the mm300 owners list thread in SCS...
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Shaggyangel definitely reliable. From personal experience, he will go out of his way to help if there is a problem with your purchase. Though I have not tried at TS but his warranties are stamped by Indonesia AD and are international warranties. Read somewhere that a member had no problems with the warranty at TS.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Big time was selling at 3050 until a few mths back when yen dropped, then now 7% off across the board excluding discounts for regulars. I enquired abt shaggy bros pieces there, one sales person mentioned abt questionable movement replacements done in indo. It could just be his sales talk, but at only abt 300 dollars difference currently i rather have a piece of mind by buying local set :)



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Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Oh my...any senior bros who have bought from shaggy angel care to comment?
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"bish"

Big time was selling at 3050 until a few mths back when yen dropped, then now 7% off across the board excluding discounts for regulars. I enquired abt shaggy bros pieces there, one sales person mentioned abt questionable movement replacements done in indo. It could just be his sales talk, but at only abt 300 dollars difference currently i rather have a piece of mind by buying local set :)



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That is quite serious. I only heard from Big Time about questions on servicing the pieces at TS but not questions on the movement itself. I think even the ones bought from BT are warranted by BT only, if I am not wrong. But at least they have a physical shop here.

If that kind of thing bothers the buyer then, no choice but to get a set locally even if it means paying a bit more. To be even more sure (if that is even a phrase) get from TS. I saw a piece at Vivo city seiko shop. Cheers.

Mileage varies.

Can only say I for one have no problems, touch wood, so far.

Enjoy the journey more than the destination.
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"KKFA"

[quote="bish"]Big time was selling at 3050 until a few mths back when yen dropped, then now 7% off across the board excluding discounts for regulars. I enquired abt shaggy bros pieces there, one sales person mentioned abt questionable movement replacements done in indo. It could just be his sales talk, but at only abt 300 dollars difference currently i rather have a piece of mind by buying local set :)



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That is quite serious. I only heard from Big Time about questions on servicing the pieces at TS but not questions on the movement itself. I think even the ones bought from BT are warranted by BT only, if I am not wrong. But at least they have a physical shop here.

If that kind of thing bothers the buyer then, no choice but to get a set locally even if it means paying a bit more. To be even more sure (if that is even a phrase) get from TS. I saw a piece at Vivo city seiko shop. Cheers.

Mileage varies.

Can only say I for one have no problems, touch wood, so far.

Enjoy the journey more than the destination.[/quote]

Like i said. Could be just sales talk so go with your gut feeling. Vivo seiko shop selling at 4k+ awhile ago by the way :shock:



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Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Sales talk is one thing. But if you not sure then say other people's product is not authentic etc etc thats why so cheap, its not good mah...



Btw, I read around, seems there are no mm300 fakes. Simply cos this is a niche watch known only to WIS and divers, so there is no profit in faking it!
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"tjh07"

Sales talk is one thing. But if you not sure then say other people's product is not authentic etc etc thats why so cheap, its not good mah...



Btw, I read around, seems there are no mm300 fakes. Simply cos this is a niche watch known only to WIS and divers, so there is no profit in faking it!


I agree.. Besides its not so simple as taking a movt out and replacing w another.



The pinion has to fit the hands and the movt has to fit the dial feet (unless they cut it off and glue the dial to the movt).



Then there is the date wheel. The mm300 date wheel has a metallic silver background, not white. So by looking at the date it would be obvious.



They will also hv to remove the stem fm the crown and and put in a new stem so it'll work w the replaced movt.



Is it worth all the effort for a niche market time piece?





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That's sensible. But, look at the Aquadive saga. A real lesson there for all of us. Of course the BT sales person still should not make unsubstantiated statements on shaggy's mm300.



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"herzausstahl"

That's sensible. But, look at the Aquadive saga. A real lesson there for all of us. Of course the BT sales person still should not make unsubstantiated statements on shaggy's mm300.



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Can share what aquadive saga?

I mountain turtle.



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"ivan"

[quote="herzausstahl"]That's sensible. But, look at the Aquadive saga. A real lesson there for all of us. Of course the BT sales person still should not make unsubstantiated statements on shaggy's mm300.



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Can share what aquadive saga?

I mountain turtle.



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Yeah good to know. Mountain turtle 2..



Anyway, I believe what we say here are merely our personal opinions and experiences so no reflections on any bros.



It depends on the buyer's risk appetite.



Just to add, I agree that the profit motive for faking a mm300 seems low but then again, there may be fakes out there that we still don't know of ..yet..hehehehe.

Cheers and enjoy the ride, my friends.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Mmm... Maybe you google "fake" and "Aquadive". Should throw up sufficient links for reading..



to link back to original topic, I'm just saying that we always assume no fakes for niche models

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Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"herzausstahl"

Mmm... Maybe you google "fake" and "Aquadive". Should throw up sufficient links for reading..



to link back to original topic, I'm just saying that we always assume no fakes for niche models

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Agree. Like they say low crime does not mean no crime.

Depends on rep of seller risk appetite of buyer.

U will be surprised how many so called 'niche' models that one can find if one looks hard enough..
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
the BT guy didnt say that shaggy bro confirm selling fake. Just claimed tt there r rumors saying these type of lobangs can be quite shady.. so yeah.



Enjoy the hunt bros!!



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Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Don't assume it's not worth faking a niche product.



There's fake russian vintage watches selling on eBay for USD69.99 Buy It Now, so that's how low a fake watch is worth producing for. :)
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"roo7"

Don't assume it's not worth faking a niche product.



There's fake russian vintage watches selling on eBay for USD69.99 Buy It Now, so that's how low a fake watch is worth producing for. :)


True... Fair enough





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Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"roo7"

Don't assume it's not worth faking a niche product.



There's fake russian vintage watches selling on eBay for USD69.99 Buy It Now, so that's how low a fake watch is worth producing for. :)


A $2.5k watch is well worth faking.
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Now.

That is really scary!





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Re: Questions about marine master 300...
So far, Shaggy has been straight up and I believe some other SC member had also gotten a GS from him.(among others getting Seikos) No issues at all, he sent his GS to TS to be sent for servicing in Japan. All ok. I can understand the concern from getting from shaggy and best is if you are not comfortable, don't buy so that you have a peace of mind. Fakes will always be present in any industry. If you feel more comfortable getting from BT, by all means go ahead. You want to be sure its a genuine Seiko, buy from TS. International Warranty card stamped too. Even BT cannot give you that warranty card(international Seiko) as their Seikos are mostly JDM sets (with in-house warranty).



From a business perspective, it is unethical to bad mouth your competition and that imho is the worst thing one can do. It may be unintentional but no amount of explanation can satisfy why one needs to stoop to so low levels. Opinions expressed because of a personal encounter is another matter altogether.



As to fakes, there are lots of 'franken' seikos out there which cost <S$150 and sold as original Seiko. Would that be considered a fake to you? Or it has to have only original parts/serviced and replaced by only Seiko AD than its considered original? As long as you are happy with your product, price you paid, decision you made to either buy or walk away after doing all your research( including asking around and having friends help etc), that is what matters ultimately. Getting cheated for $50 or $50,000 is the same. (Of course one can always argue about the amount but that is a purely subjective matter altogether).
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Well said.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
To be fair to Shaggy.



I did also get a SBDX007 from him as well. Went to TS to do a water test and gasket replacement as well.



So far so good.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"Cosmograph"

So far, Shaggy has been straight up and I believe some other SC member had also gotten a GS from him.(among others getting Seikos) No issues at all, he sent his GS to TS to be sent for servicing in Japan. All ok. I can understand the concern from getting from shaggy and best is if you are not comfortable, don't buy so that you have a peace of mind. Fakes will always be present in any industry. If you feel more comfortable getting from BT, by all means go ahead. You want to be sure its a genuine Seiko, buy from TS. International Warranty card stamped too. Even BT cannot give you that warranty card(international Seiko) as their Seikos are mostly JDM sets (with in-house warranty).



From a business perspective, it is unethical to bad mouth your competition and that imho is the worst thing one can do. It may be unintentional but no amount of explanation can satisfy why one needs to stoop to so low levels. Opinions expressed because of a personal encounter is another matter altogether.



As to fakes, there are lots of 'franken' seikos out there which cost <S$150 and sold as original Seiko. Would that be considered a fake to you? Or it has to have only original parts/serviced and replaced by only Seiko AD than its considered original? As long as you are happy with your product, price you paid, decision you made to either buy or walk away after doing all your research( including asking around and having friends help etc), that is what matters ultimately. Getting cheated for $50 or $50,000 is the same. (Of course one can always argue about the amount but that is a purely subjective matter altogether).




Well said.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
Thanks to all senior bros for their honest feedback. Think I will ask Shaggy if he still has stock and purchase from him...
Re: Questions about marine master 300...
I think he has some new stocks. Enjoy the wacth where ever u decide to get it from.

Cheers.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"KKFA"

Shaggyangel definitely reliable. From personal experience, he will go out of his way to help if there is a problem with your purchase. Though I have not tried at TS but his warranties are stamped by Indonesia AD and are international warranties. Read somewhere that a member had no problems with the warranty at TS.


Thank you for your feedback bro :) Appreciate it.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"bish"

Big time was selling at 3050 until a few mths back when yen dropped, then now 7% off across the board excluding discounts for regulars. I enquired abt shaggy bros pieces there, one sales person mentioned abt questionable movement replacements done in indo. It could just be his sales talk, but at only abt 300 dollars difference currently i rather have a piece of mind by buying local set :)



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Let me clarify to you bro. My SBDX001, is really brand new. I get it from the Indonesian AD,and rightaway do the transaction (face to face deal) in Singapore with my customers. What you should have known is it is not easy to replace the movement, and infact to replace the movement or to open the case, it must be sent to Japan. If you are not happy with my price, then you can just go for local set :) I am here to offer MM300 with competitive price.



Thank you.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"Cosmograph"

So far, Shaggy has been straight up and I believe some other SC member had also gotten a GS from him.(among others getting Seikos) No issues at all, he sent his GS to TS to be sent for servicing in Japan. All ok. I can understand the concern from getting from shaggy and best is if you are not comfortable, don't buy so that you have a peace of mind. Fakes will always be present in any industry. If you feel more comfortable getting from BT, by all means go ahead. You want to be sure its a genuine Seiko, buy from TS. International Warranty card stamped too. Even BT cannot give you that warranty card(international Seiko) as their Seikos are mostly JDM sets (with in-house warranty).



From a business perspective, it is unethical to bad mouth your competition and that imho is the worst thing one can do. It may be unintentional but no amount of explanation can satisfy why one needs to stoop to so low levels. Opinions expressed because of a personal encounter is another matter altogether.



As to fakes, there are lots of 'franken' seikos out there which cost <S$150 and sold as original Seiko. Would that be considered a fake to you? Or it has to have only original parts/serviced and replaced by only Seiko AD than its considered original? As long as you are happy with your product, price you paid, decision you made to either buy or walk away after doing all your research( including asking around and having friends help etc), that is what matters ultimately. Getting cheated for $50 or $50,000 is the same. (Of course one can always argue about the amount but that is a purely subjective matter altogether).


Thank you for your support, bro :) Really appreciate it.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"Evirobie"

To be fair to Shaggy.



I did also get a SBDX007 from him as well. Went to TS to do a water test and gasket replacement as well.



So far so good.


Thank you bro for the feedback. Really appreciate it.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"shaggyangel"

[quote="KKFA"]Shaggyangel definitely reliable. From personal experience, he will go out of his way to help if there is a problem with your purchase. Though I have not tried at TS but his warranties are stamped by Indonesia AD and are international warranties. Read somewhere that a member had no problems with the warranty at TS.


Thank you for your feedback bro :) Appreciate it.[/quote]
No worries bro. Just keep giving us great deals. Cheers.
Re: Questions about marine master 300...

"shaggyangel"

[quote="bish"]Big time was selling at 3050 until a few mths back when yen dropped, then now 7% off across the board excluding discounts for regulars. I enquired abt shaggy bros pieces there, one sales person mentioned abt questionable movement replacements done in indo. It could just be his sales talk, but at only abt 300 dollars difference currently i rather have a piece of mind by buying local set :)



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Let me clarify to you bro. My SBDX001, is really brand new. I get it from the Indonesian AD,and rightaway do the transaction (face to face deal) in Singapore with my customers. What you should have known is it is not easy to replace the movement, and infact to replace the movement or to open the case, it must be sent to Japan. If you are not happy with my price, then you can just go for local set :) I am here to offer MM300 with competitive price.



Thank you.[/quote]

No prob bro :grin: not accusing u of anything. Just putting what i heard out... no other motives ah..



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My hoot from bro shaggy angel...







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Funny story. My lovely wife knew I wanted a SBDX001 and, without telling me, contacted bro shaggy angel as well to enquire about purchasing one for me as a surprise! Only when I confirmed with bro shaggy angel and told my wife then we found out what happened.



If you are reading this, sorry again bro!
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Vvv nice :D



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