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Grand Seiko or DateJust

greencat
Grand Seiko or DateJust
[color=#00BF40]Hello all. I hope this is the correct forum to think aloud.



I've been thinking for some time and I still cannot decide if I should get the Grand Seiko SBGR053 or the Rolex DateJust.



Price-wise, the Grand Seiko is cheaper but its handbuilt and more exclusive.



Rolex, is, well just Rolex.



Not sure how much discount is avaliable from the shop at ION or VivoCity. It might work out cheaper to buy from Japan and then pay the 7% GST to the postman.



I've asked a few shops and most say about 10 - 15% discount for the Rolex.



Both are about the same size, with the bracelet. Both will have the same function for me as daily wear. I am planning for this to be a keeper, so I am not too concerned about resale. In terms of service, does the Grand Seiko have to go back to Japan, or can K2 do the job, equally or if not better? I believe he can service Rolex as well?



Any views would be most welcome.



Thanks & have a great week ahead.[/color] 8-) 8-)
004
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
Personally speaking the Grand Seiko would be my first choice , not that the Rolex isnt a great piece . Only i have great appreciation for the way Grand Seiko are hand assembled & the care & quality that goes into every GS , it seems a lot of ppl in Singapore own Rolex these days , thats my opinion last i visted Singapore anyway . But i rarely see a person wearing a Grand Seiko , in my opinion Grand Seiko is more exclusive than a Rolex . You buy a GS for yourself & not a care for what others think . But if you want to scream out look @ me & have a watch to say i am a Success or for Poser status , then go Rolex :) " My 2 cents" .
rogue_hog
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"greencat"

Hello all. I hope this is the correct forum to think aloud.



I've been thinking for some time and I still cannot decide if I should get the Grand Seiko SBGR053 or the Rolex DateJust.



Price-wise, the Grand Seiko is cheaper but its handbuilt and more exclusive.



Rolex, is, well just Rolex.



Not sure how much discount is avaliable from the shop at ION or VivoCity. It might work out cheaper to buy from Japan and then pay the 7% GST to the postman.



I've asked a few shops and most say about 10 - 15% discount for the Rolex.



Both are about the same size, with the bracelet. Both will have the same function for me as daily wear. I am planning for this to be a keeper, so I am not too concerned about resale. In terms of service, does the Grand Seiko have to go back to Japan, or can K2 do the job, equally or if not better? I believe he can service Rolex as well?



Any views would be most welcome.



Thanks & have a great week ahead.



8-) 8-)


I reckon you might be able to get higher discount for regular date just. Maybe around 18%? Cos 15% is possible for explorer 2 now. Usually date just discounts should be higher than sport models.
Astro2212
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
GS is better built imo...is just lik camry toyota is in jap...

But rolex which i tnk is not as gd as GS is lik hualali which is so well known worldwide...

Gettin a rolex dj is not screamin out to everyone but is actuali well planned...

Angmo country i dun knw but in sg...who knws when u kana retrench n who here got their 1st child af the age of 16???theres a sayin NO MONEY NO MAKAN...when u SUPER DRY x do u tnk pawn shops,preowned shops,maxi cash or watever other company giv a damn to ur GS???

Our hands can stop but our kids cant...imagin u r so desperate findin $$$ for his/her sch fees wil u b so relax admirin ur GS n garden lik a rotten worm???

anyway is all imhFSo
fireal
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"Astro2212"


Our hands can stop but our kids cant...imagin u r so desperate findin $$$ for his/her sch fees wil u b so relax admirin ur GS n garden lik a rotten worm???


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: if really plan for kids and all then dont buy any watch lagi better
Astro2212
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"fireal"

[quote="Astro2212"]
Our hands can stop but our kids cant...imagin u r so desperate findin $$$ for his/her sch fees wil u b so relax admirin ur GS n garden lik a rotten worm???


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: if really plan for kids and all then dont buy any watch lagi better[/quote]
Dun buy watch u wil buy other tngs...u wil start tnkin of bigger cars,nice clothin,makan better,reno hm n some even tnk of viet,thiong,thai esp now sg is flooded with them...all is waste $$$

Put in bank u dun njoy anytng n wat if worldwar start n we kana bomb die???meet frds at hell all tok how they njoy b4 die n u oni can sic i work everyday n put many $ in bank... :lol:

To me no study pple buy gold best but now $71.50/gm so nxt is lolec loh...

Zeh zeh at nite who dun want huck???but huck who want baby???

cant b dun want baby than dun huck rite??? :lol:
Ed.YEO
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"Astro2212"

Dun buy watch u wil buy other tngs...u wil start tnkin of bigger cars,nice clothin,makan better,reno hm n some even tnk of viet,thiong,thai esp now sg is flooded with them...all is waste $$$...

I alittle different ley... car, i don't have license, nice clothin, i don't hv model built, better makan, my cholestrol will shot up, reno hm... the GOVT still hv not make the decision on Singles ownership of new flat!!! The only thing i will do if don't buy watches, will cheonging to ktvs for viet boos, tiong boos, and maybe thai boos!
david.tan
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having both GS diver and subC, GS would be the most beloved in terms of.... well, every single thing of GS !
fir_chan
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
I would go for a GRAND Seiko.



ROLEX Is nice and Astro2212 has a point about resale.





If we are not concern with resale, the grand Seiko it's the way to go.



If u are pervert like me..... view a GS... through a loupe... you will see it is probably better than a Patek, AP.....
Astro2212
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"fir_chan"

I would go for a GRAND Seiko.



ROLEX Is nice and Astro2212 has a point about resale.





If we are not concern with resale, the grand Seiko it's the way to go.



If u are pervert like me..... view a GS... through a loupe... you will see it is probably better than a Patek, AP.....

Lol bro loupe dun buy cheap cheap made in thai hor...at least a b&l
lunarin79
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
i think the most realistic question to ask yourself is..



are you ready to spend this amount for a Seiko?
Ed.YEO
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"lunarin79"

...are you ready to spend this amount for a Seiko?

CEO's question is SHORT, STRAIGHT and SHARP!!!

No...no... no joke. Really serious question! It's a matter of how one see a timepiece as. A treasure? Or an asset of investment? Or just something in life that one use, keep, then passes on to another person, be them their juniors, kins or even friends!

:encore: :applause: :encore:
fir_chan
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"Astro2212"

[quote="fir_chan"]I would go for a GRAND Seiko.



ROLEX Is nice and Astro2212 has a point about resale.





If we are not concern with resale, the grand Seiko it's the way to go.



If u are pervert like me..... view a GS...hrough a loupe...you will see it is probably better than a Patek, AP.....

Lol bro loupe dun buy cheap cheap made in thai hor...at least a b&l[/quote]
B&L...Simi brand?I.Got cheap.cheap one.Dun think

it's even Thai.
Ed.YEO
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"fir_chan"

...B&L...Simi brand?I.Got cheap.cheap one.Dun think

it's even Thai.

The "thai" subbrand and mix blood between BALL and BELL&ROSS... BALL & LOSS!
fir_chan
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
True.Some view watches as fashion accessories, some as a instrument to tell time, some investment, some as an art form....





Other collectors keep stamps....even more valuable...then again, what are you looking for?



Buy what your heart feels....Dun let us tell you what you should or should not get.
Solanum88
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
I would take the GS over the datejust

If resale is a concern, while Rolex are highly liquid, the DJ doesnt do very well compared to the sport models in the preown market.

From my casual observations, while the resale for GS isnt good nor is it that liquid, I noticed GS are still sold pretty quickly online when a used piece is put up for sale.
TheChef
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
As for as possible, I buy watches that I can easily sell and not lose my shirt. At this moment, Rolex is an easier sell than GS. What do you think?
Astro2212
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"fir_chan"

[quote="Astro2212"]
Lol bro loupe dun buy cheap cheap made in thai hor...at least a b&l

B&L...Simi brand?I.Got cheap.cheap one.Dun think

it's even Thai.[/quote]
Mai buy cheap cheap 1 lah...eye sibeh fast spoil
004
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
In Australia GS isnt even on the radar so to speak , we only know of Rolex ,Omega , Swiss watches etc "whats a GS" most Aussie's would say . But am a Aussie guy & love GS & couldnt care less for resale , if you are worried about resale your not ready & should keep your $$$ . But every used GS sold in Aust , is sold quick & for a high price & not often come on the market & they are snapped up fast . .
big-e-294
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"MIKER"

In Australia GS isnt even on the radar so to speak , we only know of Rolex ,Omega , Swiss watches etc "whats a GS" most Aussie's would say . But am a Aussie guy & love GS & couldnt care less for resale , if you are worried about resale your not ready & should keep your $$$ . But every used GS sold in Aust , is sold quick & for a high price & not often come on the market & they are snapped up fast . .


on ya mate!



i'm an aussie guy and i love GS and JDM Seiko too!

i couldn't give two hoots what other people think.
Astro2212
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"big-e-294"

[quote="MIKER"]In Australia GS isnt even on the radar so to speak , we only know of Rolex ,Omega , Swiss watches etc "whats a GS" most Aussie's would say . But am a Aussie guy & love GS & couldnt care less for resale , if you are worried about resale your not ready & should keep your $$$ . But every used GS sold in Aust , is sold quick & for a high price & not often come on the market & they are snapped up fast . .


on ya mate!



i'm an aussie guy and i love GS and JDM Seiko too!

i couldn't give two hoots what other people think.[/quote]
U aussie but how come u knw gs n jdm seiko???

mike u the man!!!u knw gs n ananta!!!
004
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"big-e-294"

[quote="MIKER"]In Australia GS isnt even on the radar so to speak , we only know of Rolex ,Omega , Swiss watches etc "whats a GS" most Aussie's would say . But am a Aussie guy & love GS & couldnt care less for resale , if you are worried about resale your not ready & should keep your $$$ . But every used GS sold in Aust , is sold quick & for a high price & not often come on the market & they are snapped up fast . .


on ya mate!



i'm an aussie guy and i love GS and JDM Seiko too!

i couldn't give two hoots what other people think.[/quote]

"Well said bloke" I aint no Poser , So the GS flys under the Radar & i enjoy it al to myself , who gives a .... what the other dude thinks anyway .
chriscentro
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Mike is Singaporeanised already,lol
004
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"chriscentro"

Mike is Singaporeanised already,lol


Yeh lah , i also can speak Singlish .
TheChef
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"TheChef"

As for as possible, I buy watches that I can easily sell and not lose my shirt. At this moment, Rolex is an easier sell than GS. What do you think?


Make no mistake about it, I still like GS and JDM.
004
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
^^

I also like Rolex watches , particularly the Sea Dweller . Only i like GS more , but i dont own either of them also .
taxidriver123
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"MIKER"

[quote="chriscentro"]Mike is Singaporeanised already,lol


Yeh lah , i also can speak Singlish .[/quote]
That's great mate
LB1981
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
Just buy what you like and within your means. We can only give you advices. The pros and cons. In the end, it really up to what you want n like. :)
004
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"taxidriver123"

[quote="MIKER"]


Yeh lah , i also can speak Singlish .

That's great mate[/quote]

:D :D
big-e-294
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"MIKER"

[quote="big-e-294"]


on ya mate!



i'm an aussie guy and i love GS and JDM Seiko too!

i couldn't give two hoots what other people think.


"Well said bloke" I aint no Poser , So the GS flys under the Radar & i enjoy it al to myself , who gives a .... what the other dude thinks anyway .[/quote]



I love that feeling when I go into a room full of people, be it at a meeting, conference or exhibition and I know I'm probably the only guy wearing an mm300 or a KS.



(But same can be said if I was wearing a Mickey Mouse watch :lol:)

Oh well... Go figure
Ed.YEO
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
Just in case any of the brudders here want to get GS in HK... check it out there... according to this post...

http://www.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=21768117&extra=page%3D1"http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_130415/20130415_1054e66863f798c7cfbczDYOjNzc4Vu5.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy">

no takers yet...
ckw
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
i once pondered getting a GS, but my concerns are about getting a WATCH, something unique, not readily seen, heard or understood and definitely not about liquidating...after advice from bros here and some research, i took the plunge and got the GS SBGR061...



i felt in love with it immediately when i laid my eyes and hands on it, the quality is truly amazing and have it hug my wrist...the best feeling i have wearing a watch...my precious which i only bring out when i know that it won't be hurt...



i overheard a friend recently asking another which rolex to buy, so that it can be flipped later...if he asked me, i would just tell him to keep his money in the bank, its the most fluid there...



like all the bros advice here, just ask yourself what is the meaning of buying a high-end watch to you...then maybe it'll be easier to decide, as it'll be your money and its going to be on your wrist...
greencat
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[color=#00BF40]Appreciate all the views, thanks.



If/ when I buy, it will be a keeper so I'm not looking at resale value.



I understand that K2 can service the GS & the Rolex, so that's good to know.



If I go for the GS, I'm still thinking if I should get it from the physical store here or via the usual Japan stores online. The advantage with going to a store here is that I can get the exact piece that I view/ hold & if there are any problems, I can go straight back.



Online from Japan will probably be cheaper, including the GST which is quite likely. Will the Warranty be valid here if I get it online from Japan?



Thanks.[/color] ;)
ckw
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
you can always go to Thong Sia or Seiko Vivo City to have a feel of it if they have the piece, there's no obligation to buy...



from what i know, Seiko can identify the watch maker that make the particular GS by its serial no. and if you bring it to Thong Sia, they will send it back to Japan, to the watch maker of that particular watch to service or repair it. it will cost a bit more and takes longer, but for a GS, I think its worth it. so make sure it have a international warantee if you getting overseas.



i was told this kind of service is only available to high-end watches in the likes of AP, Lange...etc.



anyway, for the quality of GS, i reckon that minimal servicing and repair is required...
Solanum88
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"greencat"

Appreciate all the views, thanks.



If/ when I buy, it will be a keeper so I'm not looking at resale value.



I understand that K2 can service the GS & the Rolex, so that's good to know.



If I go for the GS, I'm still thinking if I should get it from the physical store here or via the usual Japan stores online. The advantage with going to a store here is that I can get the exact piece that I view/ hold & if there are any problems, I can go straight back.



Online from Japan will probably be cheaper, including the GST which is quite likely. Will the Warranty be valid here if I get it online from Japan?



Thanks.

;)

IIRC GS comes with 2 years international warranty.
funky_banana
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"greencat"

Appreciate all the views, thanks.



If/ when I buy, it will be a keeper so I'm not looking at resale value.



I understand that K2 can service the GS & the Rolex, so that's good to know.



If I go for the GS, I'm still thinking if I should get it from the physical store here or via the usual Japan stores online. The advantage with going to a store here is that I can get the exact piece that I view/ hold & if there are any problems, I can go straight back.



Online from Japan will probably be cheaper, including the GST which is quite likely. Will the Warranty be valid here if I get it online from Japan?



Thanks.

;)


the most typical thing that some of us here do is to try the watches in retail shop first. then get them from online jap stores like seiya japan/higuchi



if im not wrong, yes its international warranty.if not send them a email and i'm sure they will be glad to help
tckrto
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No regrets~! :twisted: Hoot it from Japan

My first post :mrgreen:
ivan
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
Wanna buy, dun think

Wanna think, dun buy.



Arrrrrrrrgggggghhhhh



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jake_16234
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DJ
004
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust

"tckrto"





No regrets~! :twisted: Hoot it from Japan

My first post :mrgreen:


Welocme to the site , nice GS 8-)
mdee232
Re: Grand Seiko or DateJust
Hi greencat,



Personally I go for the GS, some watch blog says the GS is the "Lexus of Japan Watches". Even the Datejust looks tempting and glamourous, however, its just like parking a Lexus in between Mercedes/BMW. End state, follow your gut feeling.


"greencat"

Hello all. I hope this is the correct forum to think aloud.



I've been thinking for some time and I still cannot decide if I should get the Grand Seiko SBGR053 or the Rolex DateJust.



Price-wise, the Grand Seiko is cheaper but its handbuilt and more exclusive.



Rolex, is, well just Rolex.



Not sure how much discount is avaliable from the shop at ION or VivoCity. It might work out cheaper to buy from Japan and then pay the 7% GST to the postman.



I've asked a few shops and most say about 10 - 15% discount for the Rolex.



Both are about the same size, with the bracelet. Both will have the same function for me as daily wear. I am planning for this to be a keeper, so I am not too concerned about resale. In terms of service, does the Grand Seiko have to go back to Japan, or can K2 do the job, equally or if not better? I believe he can service Rolex as well?



Any views would be most welcome.



Thanks & have a great week ahead.



8-) 8-)