[160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germany!

[160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germany!
[size=133]Even a small sized German Pilot Officer can be as sharp as the BIG BOYS[/size]





Before i went full steam with STEINHART and UHR produce, both which offers VFM watches with their catalogue of products, i have heard of KEMMNER for a certain time. Fellow brudders here may wonder, if i had heard about KEMMNER, why didn't i get one of Roland KEMMNER's release in the past 2 years? Till now?

Most of you should have known by now, Roland sells his small production of watches bearing his name thru EBAY, and do not sell thru a specific website like STEINHART and UHR, where we can often check for new releases. Hence... i don't really have much chance to check on EBAY updates as it seems that there are folks selling pre-owned KEMNER watches in the BAY as well. In addition, KEMMNER's limited production volume on limited number of model options available, could easily be missed by serious buyers as the new releases from the other 2 makers could be often distracting. So when i started to follow on latest release from KEMMNER starting this year, immediately i placed an order for the FLIEGER Chronograph which seems to have a limited release number per batch.



Just picked up the registered package few hours back from the post office. This is my first encounter with KEMMNER, and i handled the package with trembling hand.:lol: In comparison to UHR and STEINHART where their watches were shipped in a large box, KEMMNER's order was shipped in a large envelope where i could easily felt 2 parts were packed. I was too concerned whether the content was break into 2 parts during the shipping process. Upon unpacking, i was relived that the watch is shipped in good order.



Onto the watch...

Decorating the black dial, the color of the lume paint applied, is not as white as what the STEINHART Nav.B Chrono maybe. It's some kind of off white, slightly yellowish, more pale than beige. I wonder is that color due to the effect of anti-reflection coating internally that caused such "discoloration". While it's nice to have some red hands, the minute and hour counter as well as the Chronograph, to complement with the off-white lumed indexes on dial and the time telling hour, minute, seconds hands... the glossy black frames on the latter 3 makes the hands looked more smaller from far. The movement is not decorated with blue screws or milling patterns, not even the rotor is bearing the KEMMNER's label. But that's not a major concern. The case is polished in all parts, including the back case and the crown as well as the chrono pushers, so as the bracelet with butterfly clasp. The polished parts is my major concern, where they're easily prone to be scratched easily, since i'm working in a harsh environment. Well... i guess i'll have this classed as one another dress watch to my collection. Heee~~~



Without further ado... all the pics galore!

===================================

Hot off the post office counter couple of hours ago...



My first encounter with KEMMNER's product. Come packed in a large envelope with lots of stamps from GERMANY.





First thing to come out of the package, a separate box of watch tools for strap change





The supplied polished bracelet, which doesn't feel light at all, pretty solid and finely built!





Guess what's in the box? Will there be a spare sunglass given free?





So... the watch is here! So as a spare strap changing tool... as well as a contact/business card. Where's the warranty card?



Surprisingly, this watch box can be double use as an traveling case for 2 watches! Haaa~~~



Onto the watch, the polished case...



...and the polished pushers and crown.





Undecorated movement and rotor.







Supplied strap too stiff, and buckle type.





Even though the dial is carbon Ash Black, the glossy Black framed hands making it look much smaller from far... Light reflection on the slightly domed sapphire glass shows some hint of anti-reflective coating.





29/04 update: A little close up under bright light shows the etched in subdials





29/04 update: Ahh... MADE IN GERMANY... the one and only piece in my collection with these words





29/04 update: A little close up, i see that the lume on the indices coated thickly, and some kind of gloss protection over





When i compare the KEMMNER Flieger Chrono with the rest of the watches i had so far, the workmanship is on par with watches from STEINHART as well as UHR. There are both good and poor points on the KEMMNER Flieger Chrono.

First of all, the price point. If i'm to compare this against STEINHART's 44mm Nav.B Chrono, the price difference may not be that far apart considering that the sales package on this is much attractive with the addition of strap changing tool, additional strap(although in some case, STEINHART may include an extra strap for free... ). I've not get a Guinand Chronograph yet, but their most budget friendly model should be on par with KEMMNER's offer on pricing.

Next, built quality. From the combination of movement, case, watch glass as well as the lume, dial and index layout... KEMMNER's Flieger Chrono may not loose out to STEINHART's Nav.B Chrono, even though the movement is not decorated. The workmanship quality is competitive to other makes from other makers.



Will i go for another KEMMNER's watch again? That depends. As i had pointed out, KEMMNER's release of model options is pretty limited. Plus, with the rising cost on the movements, i will have to see to what extent and specs KEMMNER may offer next. I'll certainly get another KEMMNER if all fields of expectation favors.
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petite Officer von Germ
nice watch! how much did i cost you?
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petite Officer von Germ
gxgx



so no long Mr UHR liao lor :twisted:
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petite Officer von Germ

"lunarin79"

gxgx



so no long Mr UHR liao lor :twisted:

UHR still support... but recently no new models from them ley... i now waiting for euro to go down a certain level back to few week ago... such that my next target don't hit more than 1k.
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petite Officer von Germ

"inefficient"

nice watch! how much did i cost you?

26 blue bills plus 2 kopi-c. Luckily...
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petite Officer von Germ
Not bad looking.. although the logo reminds me of the old Heuer logo...
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petite Officer von Germ
Looks good and pretty cheap as well.
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petite Officer von Germ

"Evirobie"

Looks good and pretty cheap as well.

Luckily boh tio charge... otherwise, could easily hit 28 blue bills....
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petite Officer von Germ
What ebay handle is Kemner selling his watch under?
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petite Officer von Germ
it's actuall spelt as 'Kemmner' :mrgreen:
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petite Officer von Germ

"Evirobie"

What ebay handle is Kemner selling his watch under?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kemmner-Fliegerchronograph-Ref-2011-mit-ETA-Valjoux-7750-/300846288584?pt=DE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren&hash=item460bd60ec8#ht_704wt_1043" false;
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germa

"Ed.YEO"

[size=133]Even a small sized German Pilot Officer can be as sharp as the BIG BOYS[/size]





Before i went full steam with STEINHART and UHR produce, both which offers VFM watches with their catalogue of products, i have heard of KEMNER for a certain time. Fellow brudders here may wonder, if i had heard about KEMNER, why didn't i get one of Roland KEMNER's release in the past 2 years? Till now?

Most of you should have known by now, Roland sells his small production of watches bearing his name thru EBAY, and do not sell thru a specific website like STEINHART and UHR, where we can often check for new releases. Hence... i don't really have much chance to check on EBAY updates as it seems that there are folks selling pre-owned KEMNER watches in the BAY as well. In addition, KEMNER's limited production volume on limited number of model options available, could easily be missed by serious buyers as the new releases from the other 2 makers could be often distracting. So when i started to follow on latest release from KEMNER starting this year, immediately i placed an order for the FLIEGER Chronograph which seems to have a limited release number per batch.



Just picked up the registered package few hours back from the post office. This is my first encounter with KEMNER, and i handled the package with trembling hand.:lol: In comparison to UHR and STEINHART where their watches were shipped in a large box, KEMNER's order was shipped in a large envelope where i could easily felt 2 parts were packed. I was too concerned whether the content was break into 2 parts during the shipping process. Upon unpacking, i was relived that the watch is shipped in good order.



Onto the watch...

Decorating the black dial, the color of the lume paint applied, is not as white as what the STEINHART Nav.B Chrono maybe. It's some kind of off white, slightly yellowish, more pale than beige. I wonder is that color due to the effect of anti-reflection coating internally that caused such "discoloration". While it's nice to have some red hands, the minute and hour counter as well as the Chronograph, to complement with the off-white lumed indexes on dial and the time telling hour, minute, seconds hands... the glossy black frames on the latter 3 makes the hands looked more smaller from far. The movement is not decorated with blue screws or milling patterns, not even the rotor is bearing the KEMNER's label. But that's not a major concern. The case is polished in all parts, including the back case and the crown as well as the chrono pushers, so as the bracelet with butterfly clasp. The polished parts is my major concern, where they're easily prone to be scratched easily, since i'm working in a harsh environment. Well... i guess i'll have this classed as one another dress watch to my collection. Heee~~~



Without further ado... all the pics galore!

===================================

Hot off the post office counter couple of hours ago...



My first encounter with KEMNER's product. Come packed in a large envelope with lots of stamps from GERMANY.





First thing to come out of the package, a separate box of watch tools for strap change





The supplied polished bracelet, which doesn't feel light at all, pretty solid and finely built!





Guess what's in the box? Will there be a spare sunglass given free?





So... the watch is here! So as a spare strap changing tool... as well as a contact/business card. Where's the warranty card?



Surprisingly, this watch box can be double use as an traveling case for 2 watches! Haaa~~~



Onto the watch, the polished case...



...and the polished pushers and crown.





Undecorated movement and rotor.







Supplied strap too stiff, and buckle type.





Even though the dial is carbon Ash Black, the glossy Black framed hands making it look much smaller from far... Light reflection on the slightly domed sapphire glass shows some hint of anti-reflective coating.





When i compare the KEMNER Flieger Chrono with the rest of the watches i had so far, the workmanship is on par with watches from STEINHART as well as UHR. There are both good and poor points on the KEMNER Flieger Chrono.

First of all, the price point. If i'm to compare this against STEINHART's 44mm Nav.B Chrono, the price difference may not be that far apart considering that the sales package on this is much attractive with the addition of strap changing tool, additional strap(although in some case, STEINHART may include an extra strap for free... ). I've not get a Guinand Chronograph yet, but their most budget friendly model should be on par with KEMNER's offer on pricing.

Next, built quality. From the combination of movement, case, watch glass as well as the lume, dial and index layout... KEMNER's Flieger Chrono may not loose out to STEINHART's Nav.B Chrono, even though the movement is not decorated. The workmanship quality is competitive to other makes from other makers.



Will i go for another KEMNER's watch again? That depends. As i had pointed out, KEMNER's release of model options is pretty limited. Plus, with the rising cost on the movements, i will have to see to what extent and specs KEMNER may offer next. I'll certainly get another KEMNER if all fields of expectation favors.




isnt it Kemmner not KEMNER? 8-)
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germa
Aiya!!!!!! Just notice the stupid mistake made!!!

CEO highlighted earlier, but in office, i cannot take time to correct. Correcting now... :lol:
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germa

"Ed.YEO"

Aiya!!!!!! Just notice the stupid mistake made!!!

CEO highlighted earlier, but in office, i cannot take time to correct. Correcting now... :lol:




dangerous ley.... cos a real from a fake might have only one alphabet difference ...like KEMNER and KEMMNER :P



as for me a + point for the package deal set(accessories) but - point for the undecorated rotor esp for a see thru caseback.





If its a smaller size,its still ok but for a mid-large size with such caseback,one couldnt help but notice the plain look of it.



thats my opinion.
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germa

"oOsiMm"

...as for me a + point for the package deal set(accessories) but - point for the undecorated rotor esp for a see thru caseback.





If its a smaller size,its still ok but for a mid-large size with such caseback,one couldnt help but notice the plain look of it.



thats my opinion.

If i'm to put it against the STEINHART 44mm Nav.B Chrono, price wise, STEINHART could be a clear winner if GST is not charged. $100 difference just couldn't justify for the tools and extra strap. But, since i don't have the Nav.B Chrono yet, although in my hoot list of the year, currently the price of this is the best that one can get... unless UHR comes up with a FLIEGER Chrono as well...



The movement is easily unseen when it is wrapped around my wrist... hence, even if the movement is decorated, it will still be... unseen.



I guess this will be the smallest Flieger Chrono to date, @ 42mm, sized like my SEIKO 5 Field watch, SNZG17.



In this 2nd day, when i look at the watch again, it look some kind of vintage on the lume, very... different from other Flieger Chronos in the market....
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ
If it can be easily unseen after you strapped it on,then might as well have plain stainless steel caseback rather than display caseback IMO.....



but ok lah...happy can riao...





GXGX
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ
Actually as far as homage brands go , i think a plus point on kemmner is that they use good movement and price it affordably

i would say on par with the swiss made invictas
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"fireal"

Actually as far as homage brands go , i think a plus point on kemmner is that they use good movement and price it affordably

i would say on par with the swiss made invictas


Swiss made invictas :mrgreen:



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Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ
This one looks quite good, but google it and some forum say the price was 200euro when launch now is 3xx. :roll:



Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ
Gxgx bro Ed.Yeo! So this using ETA/Valjoux 7750 too?
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"stepper78"

This one looks quite good, but google it and some forum say the price was 200euro when launch now is 3xx. :roll:





heck, this design caught my eye too since last year..
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"lunarin79"

[quote="stepper78"]This one looks quite good, but google it and some forum say the price was 200euro when launch now is 3xx. :roll:





heck, this design caught my eye too since last year..[/quote]

wat you think? silver, black or gold dial better?
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"stepper78"




wat you think? silver, black or gold dial better?


for this tonneau series, i prefer the black dial, more dressy.



if there's a deep rich blue dial, i think i will be all over it,lol



looks good from pics but not sure if it will look good in actual watch anot



Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"dragonboat02"

Gxgx bro Ed.Yeo! So this using ETA/Valjoux 7750 too?

yup! ETA7750. But the movement is not decorated one. It's as simple and neutral as the movements used in UHR.
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"stepper78"

This one looks quite good, but google it and some forum say the price was 200euro when launch now is 3xx. :roll:




To be exact, 371eu shipped to SG. The movement is top grade 2824.
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"Ed.YEO"

[quote="stepper78"]This one looks quite good, but google it and some forum say the price was 200euro when launch now is 3xx. :roll:




To be exact, 371eu shipped to SG. The movement is top grade 2824.[/quote]

is it wise to opt for Miyota 9105 instead to save a few $$?
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"stepper78

is it wise to opt for Miyota 9105 instead to save a few $$?




for me, 9015 is not an issue.
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"lunarin79"

[quote="stepper78"]is it wise to opt for Miyota 9105 instead to save a few $$?


for me, 9015 is not an issue.[/quote]
The exact difference is about $120(depending on x-rates).
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"Ed.YEO"

[quote="dragonboat02"]Gxgx bro Ed.Yeo! So this using ETA/Valjoux 7750 too?

yup! ETA7750. But the movement is not decorated one. It's as simple and neutral as the movements used in UHR.[/quote]
Ic.. Regardless, it's after all a Swiss movement, plus it's an elabore grade, thus still VFM ;)

Hee.. U really is Mr 775x!
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"dragonboat02"

[quote="Ed.YEO"]
yup! ETA7750. But the movement is not decorated one. It's as simple and neutral as the movements used in UHR.

Ic.. Regardless, it's after all a Swiss movement, plus it's an elabore grade, thus still VFM ;)

Hee.. U really is Mr 775x![/quote]
Haa~~~ it's a first for me to touch on the "K" label. VFM... yeah... regardless whether it's decorated or not. If this KEMMNER's Chrono and other STEINHARTs are consider as VFM, then UHR is VVFM liao lo! :lol: :lol:

Anyway, as i had pointed out, KEMMNER's watches is very limited in options. And this is so far the only 7750 chronograph option available in his range. Currently releasing in 10pc per batch, and current listing is a 2nd run... so whether you may interested to hoot or not... your choice...(pss... it's sent by registered mail like UHR, STEINHART with FEDEX- you know you'll have to go to beach road office eventually...)
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ
3rd run of the next 10pc just started!
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ
29/04- updated with new closeup pics!
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ
Where to beo and get poison huh?
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"Valles"

Where to beo and get poison huh?

Unlike STEINHART, where you can touch it in life @ Beach Road... with some sacrifice on parking fees of course. :lol:

KEMMNERs FLIEGER Chrono you can only feel from the pictures posted on the net. Or you may touch my "piece"... with a price to pay as well... parking fees @ Tajong Katong Complex during the weekends. Can touch openly one... no need go secluded area! :lol:
Re: [160113 New Addn.]- [KEMMNER]- Le Petit Officer von Germ

"Ed.YEO"

[quote="Valles"]Where to beo and get poison huh?

Unlike STEINHART, where you can touch it in life @ Beach Road... with some sacrifice on parking fees of course. :lol:

KEMMNERs FLIEGER Chrono you can only feel from the pictures posted on the net. Or you may touch my "piece"... with a price to pay as well... parking fees @ Tajong Katong Complex during the weekends. Can touch openly one... no need go secluded area! :lol:[/quote]



Sounds kinky!!! I like :mrgreen:



Got include special service bo? :twisted: