Seiko Club Singapore Museum

Trade Go Or No Go.....

watchlooker
Trade Go Or No Go.....
Hi bros,



Ang Mo friend is interested in my Seiko and willing to offer his vintage omega speedy ,which he happen to have two exact same models, for my 6105-8110, 6306-7001 and 6309-7049, which I happen to have two exact same models for each too. :shock:



Sound too good to be true hor.... but his speedy bo box nor paper but have Omega service paper.... so go or no go..... :?: :?:
aiken74
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"watchlooker"

Hi bros,



Ang Mo friend is interested in my Seiko and willing to offer his vintage omega speedy ,which he happen to have two exact same models, for my 6105-8110, 6306-7001 and 6309-7049, which I happen to have two exact same models for each too. :shock:



Sound too good to be true hor.... but his speedy bo box nor paper but have Omega service paper.... so go or no go..... :?: :?:


bro sound rike gd deal hor...IMHO..if i hab spare 4 6105, 6306 & 6309 thn i wil go BUT must confirm that speedy ish nt fake huan n must molest first to hab e feel 1st.... 8-)
funky_banana
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sound like damn good deal.



maybe can bring to swatch to verify?
oOsiMm
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dont jump too fast into the deal jus yet. bro, wats the speedy model?



cos speedy has many variants... some worth less than 1.2k,some worth over 3k etc... must see what model + calibre no.. and with papers+box sure will be more worth(say over 100-200 bucks extra),else determine factors are the model and calibre.



6105-8110, 6306-7001 and 6309-7049 market worth for the lot(say for acceptable ready to wear cond,agar agar price) ish ard = 800+ 500+250= 1.55k price and have to push higher for trade value ... agree guys?
watchlooker
Re: Trade Go Or No Go.....

"aiken74"




bro sound rike gd deal hor...IMHO..if i hab spare 4 6105, 6306 & 6309 thn i wil go BUT must confirm that speedy ish nt fake huan n must molest first to hab e feel 1st.... 8-)


Confirm not fake one or else he'll get some stick from me..... not yet molest but did see one in person sometime ago....
watchlooker
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"funky_banana"

sound like damn good deal.



maybe can bring to swatch to verify?


Need to verify meh... since he has the official omega service paper :?: :?:
oOsiMm
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"watchlooker"

[quote="funky_banana"]sound like damn good deal.



maybe can bring to swatch to verify?


Need to verify meh... since he has the official omega service paper :?: :?:[/quote]

bro think wouldnt be fake cos you knw your friend but question is how well he can confirm with you if its 100% original calibre to the model of casing used.
watchlooker
Re: Trade Go Or No Go.....

"oOsiMm"

dont jump too fast into the deal jus yet. bro, wats the speedy model?



cos speedy has many variants... some worth less than 1.2k,some worth over 3k etc... must see what model + calibre no.. and with papers+box sure will be more worth(say over 100-200 bucks extra),else determine factors are the model and calibre.



6105-8110, 6306-7001 and 6309-7049 market worth for the lot(say for acceptable ready to wear cond,agar agar price) ish ard = 800+ 500+250= 1.55k price and have to push higher for trade value ... agree guys?


According to him hor... caseback got black engravings wordings like first watch worn on the moon which make me think hor should be the first post-moon watch lei.... calibre should be 861 lor tio bo..... one thing for sure not the reduced type.... :lol: :lol:
watchlooker
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"oOsiMm"




bro think wouldnt be fake cos you knw your friend but question is how well he can confirm with you if its 100% original calibre to the model of casing used.


Good question.... i'll ask him to show me the service paper which should include the watch details! ;)
oOsiMm
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861 and 1861 also have and just like a rollie sub,these were made for many years -> decades...



861 came out from late 60's till 1996(later years in 90's made for special edition,long time no more moonwatch)



after 1996 then 1861 came out for moon watch reissue etc.. and later seen used in limited edition models..
watchlooker
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"oOsiMm"

861 and 1861 also have and just like a rollie sub,these were made for many years -> decades...


Wah... son of 861 also have black engraving meh.... I dun know wor.... wu different bo?? he told me the black wordings is someting like first watch worn on the moon.....
oOsiMm
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haha asked CEO lor..he got 1861 ley...looks sama sama,caseback number different,movt diff,etc



check the link above to speedy database.
watchlooker
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"oOsiMm"

add this to your favourites...everything u need to know abt speedy caseback number +calibre no + yr of production etc..



http://www.chronomaddox.com/omega/tables/mr/speedy_history_cm.html" false;


from the link.... case ref. is ST145.022! thanks..... and date is 1969... wah... and I thought is 1970 onwards.... :shock:
watchlooker
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"oOsiMm"

haha asked CEO lor..he got 1861 ley...looks sama sama,caseback number different,movt diff,etc



check the link above to speedy database.


I knew he had..... actually he did ask me also..... I just told him good to go.... ;) But hor 1861 black engraving is very different if i'm not wrong..... just cannot recall.... :?: :oops:
oOsiMm
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those years are just agaragar but 1969 is correct. 145.022 is the 861 cal moonwatch.



it stated in the site 1970 riao is 145.0022 so you probably check inside the caseback to verify if that speedy is 69 or 70 onwards model.
oOsiMm
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"watchlooker"

[quote="oOsiMm"]haha asked CEO lor..he got 1861 ley...looks sama sama,caseback number different,movt diff,etc



check the link above to speedy database.


I knew he had..... actually he did ask me also..... I just told him good to go.... ;) But hor 1861 black engraving is very different if i'm not wrong..... just cannot recall.... :?: :oops:[/quote]

think can spot differences between a vintage 69 moon watch 861 and a sub-vintage 1861 by the caseback but best way to confirm is the inside caseback engravings (145.022, omega logo, clarity,etc...u knw all these riao...) must tally to a 861's..
watchlooker
Re: Trade Go Or No Go.....

"oOsiMm"

those years are just agaragar but 1969 is correct. 145.022 is the 861 cal moonwatch.



it stated in the site 1970 riao is 145.0022 so you probably check inside the caseback to verify if that speedy is 69 or 70 onwards model.

"oOsiMm"




think can spot differences between a vintage 69 moon watch 861 and a sub-vintage 1861 by the caseback but best way to confirm is the inside caseback engravings (145.022, omega logo, clarity,etc...u knw all these riao...) must tally to a 861's..


true.... must go ah goh side to verify liaoz..... :lol: :lol: thanks!!



So the trade good to go bo if verify true..... :?: :?: Not update on current value of vintage speedy.



Some moon watch crystal got logo one and some bo.... so you know which is which bo??
oOsiMm
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original vintage acrylic(mineral crystal-not sure) omega crystal got the tiny translucent logo imprinted in center. but vintage watches that's been used for so long sure at some point got crystal changed else it wouldnt be a looker on the wrist riao.. no problem for me as long as its made to fit crystal..



trade is good..cos u knw the value of your watches and the moonwatch better mah.. and moonwatch 861 is rising.. especially u can get the earliest 861 production with 145.022 rather than .0022 but both also good IMO
watchlooker
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"oOsiMm"

original vintage acrylic(mineral crystal-not sure) omega crystal got the tiny translucent logo imprinted in center. but vintage watches that's been used for so long sure at some point got crystal changed else it wouldnt be a looker on the wrist riao.. no problem for me as long as its made to fit crystal..



trade is good..cos u knw the value of your watches and the moonwatch better mah.. and moonwatch 861 is rising.. especially u can get the earliest 861 production with 145.022 rather than .0022 but both also good IMO


What's the market value of this vintage speedy? agar agar....



I knew my watches value but dun know speedy value..... :?: :?: :oops: actually i put trade value for all 3 are 1000+700+350 LOL.... all very very good difficult to find condition.... or else he won't be tempt also..... :lol: :lol:
oOsiMm
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ya I see your watches got standard one... so nw your watches trade value over 2k riao..



if its a 100% swee swee original 861,then I say ok to trade.. cos nw the value for 861 moon rised up riao.. also maybe due to supply and demand..



think a well used 861 moonwatch also can sell more than 2k,so if your friend one is in good cond,then nthing to lose riao.. cos u let go can sell for better price.
watchlooker
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"oOsiMm"

ya [color=#FF0000]I see your watches got standard one[/color]... so nw your watches trade value over 2k riao..



if its a 100% swee swee original 861,then I say ok to trade.. cos nw the value for 861 moon rised up riao.. also maybe due to supply and demand..



think a well used 861 moonwatch also can sell more than 2k,so if your friend one is in good cond,then nthing to lose riao.. cos u let go can sell for better price.


Wah.... how u know hor.... :?:



So you think is good to go.... Ok.... will update if the trade go through bo next week! ;)
oOsiMm
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haha... ya its good to go since its a trade nia...no cash money paid and both parties will be happy collectors mah..



but even if direct purchase also good to go (if all stated as per 861 speedy)...hard to find one vintage moonwatch at 2k pricepoint nowadays...
tanwill
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I think u shld go for it.

Omega speedy will appreciate faster over time !



tanwill
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Is this the watch ?





watchlooker
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"tanwill"

Is this the watch ?







Yup.... that's the watch but not with the current caseback..... the caseback is the rare type as I was told..... bo seahorse logo one.... black engraving like the first watch worn on the moon in the centre followed by circular scripts something like .... all mission... :?:
watchlooker
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"tanwill"

I think u shld go for it.

Omega speedy will appreciate faster over time !





Swee clear caseback.... can get one bo? If so where to get it? TIA.
watchlooker
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Just finalised the trade at lunchtime today..... SIC....









and to make this thread bo O.T....



another moon watch....







:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
sellwatch
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i chope number 1 queue please! :D
watchlooker
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"sellwatch"

i chope number 1 queue please! :D


Bro.... me seldom flip so fast one lei...... I wait for a very long time for a speedy so dun think will sell it! :oops:
lunarin79
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gxgx bro 8-)



i was looking for a cal.861 prev but when this cal.1861 pops out, the price was too good to pass



but i will still get another cal.861 in near future, a Mark II perhaps :P then a Mark 4.5 ;) then stop my Omega collection liao :lol:
CoolieND
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Stop? Ha! :twisted:



nice trade, watchlooker! That Moon watch looks wicked!
lunarin79
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"CoolieND"

Stop? Ha! :twisted:


yes..Stop..



this word does exist in my dictionary ;)



:lol:
watchlooker
Re: Trade Go Or No Go.....

"lunarin79"

gxgx bro 8-)



i was looking for a cal.861 prev but when this cal.1861 pops out, the price was too good to pass



but i will still get another cal.861 in near future, a Mark II perhaps :P then a Mark 4.5 ;) then stop my Omega collection liao :lol:


I knew you'll be happy with your speedy.... 1861 is good also... extra jewel wor, better movt finish and higher beat..... ;)



IMO, MarkII is better or perhap you can go for limited edition..... :lol: :lol:



For me, bo speedy for me liaoz unless a pre-moon 321 pop out..... aim for seamaster liaoz..... not those PO... vintage.... sibei sexpensive one......
watchlooker
Re: Trade Go Or No Go.....

"CoolieND"

Stop? Ha! :twisted:



nice trade, watchlooker! That Moon watch looks wicked!


Thks! ;) How's it look wicked lei?? :?:
watchlooker
Re: Trade Go Or No Go.....

"lunarin79"

[quote="CoolieND"]Stop? Ha! :twisted:


yes..Stop..



this word does exist in my dictionary ;)



:lol:[/quote]

Stop for a while nia.... to store bullets..... :lol: :lol: common one lah.... i do that too.... :D
CoolieND
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"watchlooker"

[quote="CoolieND"]Stop? Ha! :twisted:



nice trade, watchlooker! That Moon watch looks wicked!


Thks! ;) How's it look wicked lei?? :?:[/quote]

Wicked as in wicked sweet! 8-)
watchlooker
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"CoolieND"




Wicked as in wicked sweet! 8-)


Thks for your compliment! :)