What's the difference between these 2 Seikos with 4R39 ?

SEIKO Premier Automatic Sapphire Collection SSA021J1





SEIKO Presage Classic Automatic Sapphire Collection SSA029J1



Both selling at same price at skywatches

Same size 42mm with crown

Same movement 4R39, hand windable, hackable

Sapphire crystal

100m WR



Only styling different and one with the word premier on the dial.

Is premier considered a superior series compared to presage ?

i think seiko themselves regard premier's quality to be higher than the presage range. not in terms of movement but probably the case/dial/finishing? i tried on the presage one before and the quality isn't really something to shout about. go try both :)

crown in premier one looks more atas. :mrgreen: