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Seagull

yowech
Seagull
I been keen to find out more about Seagull timepiece. Wonder anyone here own/owned one? What do you think about it?
Ed.YEO
Re: Seagull
Brudder Lun owned a piece before... to bad that he flipped too quick...
lunarin79
Re: Seagull
used to own these before













and a few other mushroom brands but using Seagull movt



I would say Seagull is a good watch, timekeeping is good, build/quality of watch is good.



Seagull is very popular over at US, its trying to break into Spore market but I still dun see anyone with a seagull in the wild as of yet.



Seagull can br had cheap on ebay if u search hard enuff



here are a few lobangs

http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Classic-Sea-Gull-M185S-automatic-mechanical-watch-week-day-month-date-/280829530212?pt=Wristwatches&var=&hash=item870f0a8040#ht_500wt_922"http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-Sea-Gull-M186S-automatic-designer-watch-multi-purpose-comfortable-wear-/280841797985?t_922pt=Wristwatches&var=&hash=item870f4df74d#ht_719wt_905" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-Sea-Gull-M186S-automatic-designer-watch-multi-purpose-comfortable-wear-/280841797985?t_922pt=Wristwatches&var=&hash=item870f4df74d#ht_719wt_905"http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-designer-Sea-Gull-M187S-automatic-watch-either-Roman-Arabic-numeral-/270946896829?pt=Wristwatches&var=&hash=item84bae99d7b#ht_500wt_922" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-designer-Sea-Gull-M187S-automatic-watch-either-Roman-Arabic-numeral-/270946896829?pt=Wristwatches&var=&hash=item84bae99d7b#ht_500wt_922"http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-Sea-Gull-M182SK-silver-colored-skeleton-automatic-mechanical-watch-/270950978031?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3f15efd1ef#ht_669wt_905" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-Sea-Gull-M182SK-silver-colored-skeleton-automatic-mechanical-watch-/270950978031?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3f15efd1ef#ht_669wt_905" false;
stepper78
Re: Seagull
currently own a 1963 reissue:



watchlooker
Re: Seagull
Well.... if you are looking for a vfm chrono at a competitive price.... you will not be disappointed with seagull st19!











I owned all these 3..... ;)
Astro2212
Re: Seagull

"Ed.YEO"

Brudder Lun owned a piece before... to bad that he flipped too quick...

CEO's ex with me... :lol:



Used 2 owned the reissue n now left the moonphase...:)

SEAGULL is vfm imo...:)
CoolieND
Re: Seagull
Build quality can be good, but the quality/ QC on my (basic) M177S is a bit wanting.... Not to mention that 10-10 chronograph floating around! :lol: :lol: Depends on the price of the watch, perhaps?
Mobilenerd
Re: Seagull
For those looking for Seagull alternatives, you may want to consider Ingersoll. Currently under the Timex group which I believe is produced by Seagull. I have a IN7805 Moonphase which looks like the watch that Lun posted above.









I am interested in buying the Tian Jin Zi Zuan with the red star. Was searching online and found a guy selling in Hong Kong. But didn't manage to contact him when I was there due to work schedule. Does anyone know where I can get a copy in Singapore?



Appreciate the reply if any. Thanks.
morningbell
Re: Seagull

"Mobilenerd"


I am interested in buying the Tian Jin Zi Zuan with the red star. Was searching online and found a guy selling in Hong Kong. But didn't manage to contact him when I was there due to work schedule. Does anyone know where I can get a copy in Singapore?



Appreciate the reply if any. Thanks.


You referring to the seagull 1963 chrono that watchlooker posted? I am also curious why local Seagull website does not have this model and there is always alot of interest in this model on different forums.
lunarin79
Re: Seagull

"Mobilenerd"

For those looking for Seagull alternatives, you may want to consider Ingersoll. Currently under the Timex group which I believe is produced by Seagull. I have a IN7805 Moonphase which looks like the watch that Lun posted above.









I am interested in buying the Tian Jin Zi Zuan with the red star. Was searching online and found a guy selling in Hong Kong. But didn't manage to contact him when I was there due to work schedule. Does anyone know where I can get a copy in Singapore?



Appreciate the reply if any. Thanks.


Similarities are there





U mean this?





Locally, i have not seen any up FS on forums, during a period, there were a couple FS here



I did see one on ebay, $300+ sgd but not sure if its still available now



There might be some on WUS.
Mobilenerd
Re: Seagull
Same case and movement. Only dial is different.

Had this Ingersoll for 3 yrs and mineral crystal still good.



The Zi Zuan red star is indeed rare here. Saw one for sale last year on sg-roc.

Prices out of HK was under us$180. Found a reference for it in pmwf.

Not sold by Seagull I think cos it's assembled by a chap in HK.
Ed.YEO
Re: Seagull
looking for budget moonphase made by Seagull?

here's one... less than 100eu. @ http://www.conrad.com/Sea-Gull-0509J-SL-2528---Automatoc-Watch-%26quot;Moon%26quot;.htm?websale7=conrad-int&pi=672303&ci=SHOP_AREA_17205_0819101"http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/ce/6000_6999/6700/6720/6723/672303_LB_00_FB.EPS_1000.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy">



review @ http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/conrad-made-seagull-moonphase-big-date-686542.html" false;
Ed.YEO
Re: Seagull

"lunarin79"



Still can get this... but brandless though...





@ here... http://www.good-stuffs.com/Sea-Gull-M199S-chronograph-stopwatch-moonphase-Seagull-ST1908-movement_p_33.html" false;
Vinc04
Re: Seagull
Th seagull that CEO flipped has somehow landed in my watch box already.



Loved it at first sight... I saw several seagull previously and was mesmerized by the classy yet simple look. I thought Chinatown complex or so got one shop selling seagull??



So far after wearing for close to a month, time keeping is ok, weight and thickness is comfortable on my wrist also. Cannot really find QA/QC flaws unless you are damn fussy type of person,
Mobilenerd
Re: Seagull
There is a Seagull dealer at People's Park Complex I heard. Prices not sure as I have not been there.



They are weighty for sure. I remember having a 40mm Seagull sometime back and it was pretty well made. Flipped it cos the dial was too colourful for my taste.
morningbell
Re: Seagull

"Ed.YEO"




Still can get this... but brandless though...






Perpetual watch in HK has a similar watch with the same seagull movement and similar pricing. Not sure how much local watchmakers charge fr servicing?



http://perpetual-watch.com/images/chronograph_C-06_II.JPG



http://perpetual-watch.com/images/chronograph_sapphire_back.JPG





Ed.YEO
Re: Seagull
I think PERPETUAL have warranty provided to their watch if i'm not wrong. Otherwise their watches wouldn't have caught attentions from WUS collectors liaoz.



Regarding servicing of ST19 movements, to date we have not found in SG that really provide servicing in competitive rates(you can forget about Dr.GOH lah... he mentioned before, too complex to handle).

This is why we need more contributions of suggestion to this thread...

http://forums.seikoclubsg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3652" false;
morningbell
Re: Seagull
If there is reasonable local servicing, it looks like really VFM. Alot of watchmaking minus branding. I find it amazing that seagull can produce this ST1908 movement at this kind of prices and how they can even add a moonphrase.



Found another japanese brand using the movement. Got the patek 5170 vibe.











lunarin79
Re: Seagull

"morningbell"




Found another japanese brand using the movement. Got the patek 5170 vibe.







]


This is nice
Malo
Re: Seagull
Anyone heard of Beijing Watch Company? Not much information about this company.



Sorry for the OT :)
okies
Re: Seagull

"lunarin79"

[quote="morningbell"]


Found another japanese brand using the movement. Got the patek 5170 vibe.







]


This is nice[/quote]

Would be better if they just remove the partial 3 and 9 on the dial :lol:
MeePokMan
Re: Seagull
this one nice anot?



Wuyi using a Seagull ST2130 automatic movement.



http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-40mm-seagull-wuyi-limited-edition-watch-serial-75-500-brown-strap-seagull-deployant-737934.html" false;
lunarin79
Re: Seagull
tot 40mm too small for u :twisted:
MeePokMan
Re: Seagull

"lunarin79"

tot 40mm too small for u :twisted:


for dress watch i am ok with 38-40mm :mrgreen:
lunarin79
Re: Seagull

"MeePokMan"

[quote="lunarin79"]tot 40mm too small for u :twisted:


for dress watch i am ok with 38-40mm :mrgreen:[/quote]

oh ok but...













the Wuyi bo swee



:lol:
MeePokMan
Re: Seagull
my ex-made in china watches (all flipped liao)











now left only this one dunno what movement (CEO, this one swee boh? :lol: )

lunarin79
Re: Seagull

"MeePokMan"




now left only this one dunno what movement (CEO, this one swee boh? :lol: )



buay pai.



use 'hello' movt one lor
MeePokMan
Re: Seagull

"lunarin79"

[quote="MeePokMan"]


now left only this one dunno what movement (CEO, this one swee boh? :lol: )



buay pai.



use 'hello' movt one lor[/quote]

hello is smlj movement?
morningbell
Re: Seagull

"Malo"

Anyone heard of Beijing Watch Company? Not much information about this company.



Sorry for the OT :)


OT in Seagull thread. The reviews I read on Beijing is not bad but they don't seem to have international aspirations like seagull. Very reasonable pricing and classy designs. Never handled before so oso curious on their quality. I added some pics for comparision.



Zhufeng





Seems insipred by





Beihai





looks like jubilee

Malo
Re: Seagull

"morningbell"

[quote="Malo"]Anyone heard of Beijing Watch Company? Not much information about this company.



Sorry for the OT :)


OT in Seagull thread. The reviews I read on Beijing is not bad but they don't seem to have international aspirations like seagull. Very reasonable pricing and classy designs. Never handled before so oso curious on their quality. I added some pics for comparision.



Zhufeng





Seems insipred by





Beihai





looks like jubilee

[/quote]

This is nice. Where to see it in person?
morningbell
Re: Seagull
I have not seen anyone post beijing watch in wruw here or othe local forums before :D I don't think it is sold in any b&m shop in sg.
Ed.YEO
Re: Seagull

"morningbell"

I have not seen anyone post beijing watch in wruw here or othe local forums before :D I don't think it is sold in any b&m shop in sg.


That's because the SWISS and Japs had built their foundations as the most reliable watches to seek for locally for decades.

When it comes to China made watches, general folks would first think of reliability and durability, rather than pricing.

Long before SEAGULL manage to stand still in local market, ARBUTUS had tried to make entry to local market ends up have to back off 2 times, with changing hands of distribution agent. Originality of watches design also plays an important part to display their identity. China watches are often regarded, might be unfairly, as copycats.



This is why quality makers like Beijing Watch and Shanghai Watch do not have a chance to build up their foundations here in SG lor...



On top of all these... the question remains, who'll come to service the Tiong watches if it breaks down. Who to look for?
Mobilenerd
Re: Seagull
Personally owned an Arbutus tonneau before. Frankly apart from the mineral crystal, the rest of the watch is well built. Have since passe it on to a friend who is still using it faithfully till today.



When the first agent gave up the distributorship, I managed to grab one for $100 from a watch shop. Dirt cheap. Wished there were more deals like this. :)
Vinc04
Re: Seagull
Heard Seagull also got imitations in china, is it true?



If Seagull also got imitation, jia luc seah....
pacman1188
Re: Seagull
Yep, they have imitation Seagull and everything else in the Middle Kingdom.... I always wonder what I am (really) eating when over there.



Anyway, I see a lot of complains in their local watch forum on fakes when buying online (T.Bao shops)
Vinc04
Re: Seagull

"pacman1188"

Yep, they have imitation Seagull and everything else in the Middle Kingdom.... I always wonder what I am (really) eating when over there.



Anyway, I see a lot of complains in their local watch forum on fakes when buying online (T.Bao shops)


That's the problem... Anyone know how to differentiate real and fake seagull?
CoolieND
Re: Seagull
Who knows, two '10's on a dial? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Vinc04
Re: Seagull

"CoolieND"

Who knows, two '10's on a dial? :lol: :lol: :lol:


That is "Limited Edition"... I will grab!! Hahahhahahah :D
Malo
Re: Seagull
Saw some Seagull tourbillon watches at their outlet at People's Park today. Ask about the price of the tourbillon out of curiously...$8000plus came the reply. Way out of my league manz, but the tourbillon sure looks great in person :-)
Malo
Re: Seagull
Anyone know if the price tag of the Seagull watch ftom their outlet at People's Park are nett price or still got discount? Interested in their Retrograde day & date. Thanks in advance! !
MeePokMan
Re: Seagull

"Malo"

Anyone know if the price tag of the Seagull watch ftom their outlet at People's Park are nett price or still got discount? Interested in their Retrograde day & date. Thanks in advance! !


They give discount. iirc is 20 to 30 % off from the price tag. :mrgreen:
rogue_hog
Seagull
Yup 20%. thinking o getting the sun yat sen watch for fun. We have a chairman Mao watch now so thought I'll get the sun yat sen as a couple watch.
Malo
Re: Seagull
Thank you MeePokMan and rogue_hog. If I got time tomorow, might just go with my family to PP for shopping and check out the price :)
Malo
Re: Seagull
Was offered only 20% discount :-(
lunarin79
Re: Seagull

"Malo"

Was offered only 20% discount :-(


which model are u looking at?
Ed.YEO
Re: Seagull
I thought that the Sun Yat-San model is going off @ 220? Or... maybe i'm wrong?
Malo
Re: Seagull

"lunarin79"

[quote="Malo"]Was offered only 20% discount :-(


which model are u looking at?[/quote]

Am looking at the Retrograde Date & Day(think model is 819.316). I think I saw a very nice Orient retrograde watch at the 3rd level watch shop too. Anyway, let's see how much $ is left after my Nov trip to HK with my family then decide :-)
Ed.YEO
Re: Seagull

"Malo"

Am looking at the Retrograde Date & Day(think model is 819.316). I think I saw a very nice Orient retrograde watch at the 3rd level watch shop too. Anyway, let's see how much $ is left after my Nov trip to HK with my family then decide :-)


Going to HK? Your won't have any budget left after you come back, especially when...



...if you huntum this back from DISNEY LAND, a collaboration release made by SEAGULL.
Malo
Re: Seagull

"Ed.YEO"

[quote="Malo"]Am looking at the Retrograde Date & Day(think model is 819.316). I think I saw a very nice Orient retrograde watch at the 3rd level watch shop too. Anyway, let's see how much $ is left after my Nov trip to HK with my family then decide :-)


Going to HK? Your won't have any budget left after you come back, especially when...



...if you huntum this back from DISNEY LAND, a collaboration release made by SEAGULL.[/quote]

Gosh!!! Disneyland is one of the main purpose we are going HK...beside shopping, eating, sightseeing, etc hehehe.



Bro Ed.Yeo, what is the damage for this watch? Oh my...I'm in trouble I can tell...BIG TROUBLE!!
Ed.YEO
Re: Seagull
This is not mine. I got the picture from the HK forum. If i'm not wrong, maybe 2000HKD?



Okay... here's the pic i found.

Less than 2000HKD?