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Introduction to DOXA

Osc13
Introduction to DOXA
I've been looking around for an orange divers watch for a while now.. SICs with isofrane strap is just too much to resist, so I told myself, I'm gonna strap on an isofrane on my orange divers one day.. All this time orange monster is the sole candidate on my list till this morning when DOXA came into the picture.. It's settled then, my first orange divers is gonna be a DOXA, then I'm gonna get isofrane and shark mesh..



Went to their website and read around to find a reason to get one (don't you just love learning a little history about your watch and pass it on to your friends ?) I gotta say, beside being worn by the legendary diver Monsieur Jacques, I can't see anything else to backed their cult following status..



Not that I don't agree with their prices, it's just that I'm curious, for a watch to command that price tag (and that cult following), there must be something I'm missing here.. Is it their pioneer in introducing the orange dial divers ? Is it the conquistador helium escape valve (HEV) ? Is it their lume (would love to see how they lit up in the dark) ? is it their movement (ETAs btw) ?



Seniors (hint: bro r007, this is your cue :lol: ) like to share some knowledge on this ? Probably share with us what got you into DOXAs ?



Cheerios
okies8
Re: Introduction to DOXA
i guess is

1st orange dial

1st HEV

patented non-compression bezel
Solanum88
Re: Introduction to DOXA
The thing that interests me about Doxa is its connection with Clive Cussler, one of my favourite authors when I was younger however the brand bothers me somewhat as its pretty much a resurrected "zombie" brand with no links to the original DOXA.
Osc13
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"Solanum88"

The thing that interests me about Doxa is its connection with Clive Cussler, one of my favourite authors when I was younger however the brand bothers me somewhat as its pretty much a resurrected "zombie" brand with no links to the original DOXA.


Yeah, I figured being featured in Clive Cussler's work must be somethin like a Bond effect on the sales of Rolex Sub.. Bro sola is spot on, it is pretty much a resurrected brand with little to no historical connection to the original DOXA..



So far I'm drawing up that it is in fact sentimental factors that accounts to DOXA's prices today.. Like how a, probably, 4k worth rolex submariner commands prices such as 8k..
roo7
Re: Introduction to DOXA
I gotta say, I got hooked on Doxa for the longest time but couldn't pull the trigger on a brand new one.







When I saw this on sale, I was like wow, should I get this and at the same time fill a gap that I was missing for a long time. A GMT movt :lol:



So, it's part of my collection now :lol:
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA
Orange got me into Doxas. One of my favourite Doxa:



Osc13
Re: Introduction to DOXA
@ r007: you lucky lad, its bad enough that the model is the exact one I'm going for, you have to torture me by strapping it on a shark mesh :D

A GMT diver is a cool feat, I'm torn between a DOXA with HEV or the GMT function.. Its gotta be orange though.. Cheers on your acquisition bro..



@herza: one of your favorite ? you've got more than ? Willing to part with one of em ? :D Beautiful pic btw bro.. You truly capture the orange in DOXA



Thanks for the input guys :)
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA
yup I've got a few, but none are for sale though. Why don't you buy direct from Doxa?
sinner1974
Re: Introduction to DOXA
The excuse I give myself to get the doxa is I don't have a cushion case in my collection. Haha I know its a lame excuse.



silverguy
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"herzausstahl"

yup I've got a few, but none are for sale though. Why don't you buy direct from Doxa?


Hmm, someone is waiting for part 4 perhaps..:)
herzausstahl
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"silverguy"

[quote="herzausstahl"]yup I've got a few, but none are for sale though. Why don't you buy direct from Doxa?


Hmm, someone is waiting for part 4 perhaps..:)[/quote]

According to the posts, OSC is going for Seiko Vintage Chronographs right? I'm sure that must be higher in priority for him.
Osc13
Re: Introduction to DOXA
@herza: like r007, though I'm longing for one, I can't justify their price for a new one.. Though I am waiting for part 4 of your sale thread :) Beside the chronos, there are other priorities like wedding ring in the queue, so I'm doing my best here to resist the DOXA orange temptation, though those orange beaut are constantly giving me the puppy eye look.. Don't know how long I can resist really..



Until I bought my missus the wedding ring, I'm limiting myself to chronos and JLC for now..

Wish me luck guys :D
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"Osc13"

@herza: like r007, though I'm longing for one, I can't justify their price for a new one.. Though I am waiting for part 4 of your sale thread :) Beside the chronos, there are other priorities like wedding ring in the queue, so I'm doing my best here to resist the DOXA orange temptation, though those orange beaut are constantly giving me the puppy eye look.. Don't know how long I can resist really..



Until I bought my missus the wedding ring, I'm limiting myself to chronos and JLC for now..

Wish me luck guys :D


Don't assume I purchased at list price. I could have purchased at a much higher used price.



Sometimes used prices for certain landmark reissued Doxas are even higher than new. You might save yourself some money going new, avoiding landmark reissues, and going for less collectible models.
Ed.YEO
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https://www.bodying.sg/watches/doxa-diving.html" false;



Doxa price is some kind of mid-high level... to me. The cheapest even will hit over SGD$800, which i can get myself a STEINHART 44 GMT liao lo...
herzausstahl
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"Ed.YEO"

https://www.bodying.sg/watches/doxa-diving.html



Doxa price is some kind of mid-high level... to me. The cheapest even will hit over SGD$800, which i can get myself a STEINHART 44 GMT liao lo...


Ed, this Doxa that you linked to is not the same Doxa being discussed here. Like Sandoz, the Doxa brand has also been licensed out, and in asian markets we can find a slew of Doxa "datejusts", "daytonas", and other homage-esque designs. There are a lot of this strain of Doxa in Malaysia. Very nice, but should be considered as a separately brand with a separately line-up.



I believe the ones Oscar is referring to are from here: http://www.doxa.org/"rice beads" bracelets... I notice them when they were first resurrected, and many of the initial models used NOS cases (and were thus limited in production accordingly).
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA
Thanks to Oscar, my interest in Doxa is briefly reignited. Went to the website and saw this:







A little bit gian, for the PR meter :oops: :oops: :oops: And it's nice that the lugs are 22mm.
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA
My wife has this as well, since we were able to take advantage of being "returning customers" :lol: :lol: :lol:



It's very cute, and it's the only 300m diver she owns I think.



Ed.YEO
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"herzausstahl"


Ed, this Doxa that you linked to is not the same Doxa being discussed here. Like Sandoz, the Doxa brand has also been licensed out, and in asian markets we can find a slew of Doxa "datejusts", "daytonas", and other homage-esque designs....


哦。。。原来是这样的。。。

Learned another new thing today...
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"Ed.YEO"

[quote="herzausstahl"]
Ed, this Doxa that you linked to is not the same Doxa being discussed here. Like Sandoz, the Doxa brand has also been licensed out, and in asian markets we can find a slew of Doxa "datejusts", "daytonas", and other homage-esque designs....


哦。。。原来是这样的。。。

Learned another new thing today...[/quote]

harnor, when I first saw the asian Doxa my eyes also pop out :shock: :shock: :shock: And not say cheap also...
Osc13
Re: Introduction to DOXA
I have no idea about the existence of this homage DOXAs until Ed's post :p but yeah, I'm talking about the orange divers DOXA.



Thanks for the insight, bro Herza.. Given me a whole new perspective on this brand that we've yet to learn much about.. Given the fact that almost all of their available model are re-issues from the past, i'd say your more likely to stumble upon an landmark model, hence good price for current owners when they're flipping their orange divers :) Bro herza's explanation answers why at any given time and model, their offerings are limited in production..
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA
I think a 1200T is unlikely to retain much value used, so if you are looking for an entry watch to Doxa, that might be a good place to start. The 1200T is "small" though.

The 750T GMT is probably another piece that can be purchased cheaper used. These are current production models that seem to be still well-stocked.

RIce beads, orange dial, cushion case, dual bezel --> to me these make the Doxa sub. The variants are nice but I'd would want at least a piece that has the hallmark design before venturing to their other offerings.
ivan
Introduction to DOXA

"roo7"

I gotta say, I got hooked on Doxa for the longest time but couldn't pull the trigger on a brand new one.







When I saw this on sale, I was like wow, should I get this and at the same time fill a gap that I was missing for a long time. A GMT movt :lol:



So, it's part of my collection now :lol:


I really hated myself for clicking this post. I also regretted checking ur pic.

The watch in the pic just hooked another ikan bili





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watchlooker
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"herzausstahl"

Thanks to Oscar, my interest in Doxa is briefly reignited. Went to the website and saw this:







A little bit gian, for the PR meter :oops: :oops: :oops: And it's nice that the lugs are 22mm.


Wah... this one with the PR meter is swee.... wonder how much?? Added this into my growing wishlist liaoz..... real regret looking at this post.................................................................................... :cry: :cry:
roo7
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"ivan"


I really hated myself for clicking this post. I also regretted checking ur pic.

The watch in the pic just hooked another ikan bili





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"watchlooker"


Wah... this one with the PR meter is swee.... wonder how much?? Added this into my growing wishlist liaoz..... real regret looking at this post.................................................................................... :cry: :cry:


Too late guys.



okies8
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"watchlooker"

[quote="herzausstahl"]Thanks to Oscar, my interest in Doxa is briefly reignited. Went to the website and saw this:







A little bit gian, for the PR meter :oops: :oops: :oops: And it's nice that the lugs are 22mm.


Wah... this one with the PR meter is swee.... wonder how much?? Added this into my growing wishlist liaoz..... real regret looking at this post.................................................................................... :cry: :cry:[/quote]
Ai molest mai?
Osc13
Re: Introduction to DOXA
Don't hate the post and/or TS, hate the game instead :D



@ bro Herza: Let's add HEV on top of your specs for a DOXA, which I concur, (Cushion Case, Orange Dial, Rice Bead bracelet, Dual Bezel, preferably Hallmark Design).. Which model would you recommend ? I might be missing something here, but a DOXA watch with the above specs does not exist.. I don't actually mind if it doesn't have a steady re-sale value..



Cheers
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"Osc13"

Don't hate the post and/or TS, hate the game instead :D



@ bro Herza: Let's add HEV on top of your specs for a DOXA, which I concur, (Cushion Case, Orange Dial, Rice Bead bracelet, Dual Bezel, preferably Hallmark Design).. Which model would you recommend ? I might be missing something here, but a DOXA watch with the above specs does not exist.. I don't actually mind if it doesn't have a steady re-sale value..



Cheers


I think you are right, it doesn't seem to exist. Why would you want a HEV? A SInn U1 doesn't need one, the Autozilla needs one, both are 1000M. An omega seamaster 300m has a HEV, a rolex submariner doesn't, and neither does an MM300. I'd infer that for the same depth rating, a case that doesn't require a HEV is superior to one that does. Únless the HEV is installed for aesthetic purposes given that it lends the watch some seriousness.... :mrgreen:
watchlooker
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"okies8"

[quote="watchlooker"]


Wah... this one with the PR meter is swee.... wonder how much?? Added this into my growing wishlist liaoz..... real regret looking at this post.................................................................................... :cry: :cry:

Ai molest mai?[/quote]

Molested roo di di one before.... solid cushion case but what attract me about this one is the solid feel of the bezel which is on par with LM bezel. No harm to molest yours too... hehehe.... :mrgreen:
Osc13
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"herzausstahl"


I think you are right, it doesn't seem to exist. Why would you want a HEV? A SInn U1 doesn't need one, the Autozilla needs one, both are 1000M. An omega seamaster 300m has a HEV, a rolex submariner doesn't, and neither does an MM300. I'd infer that for the same depth rating, a case that doesn't require a HEV is superior to one that does. Únless the HEV is installed for aesthetic purposes given that it lends the watch some seriousness.... :mrgreen:


Why do we want an HEV is pretty much the same question with why do we want a rolex sea-dweller.. The only diving it's most likely to go through is desk diving, but it's still cool to have a divers with 1,000m depth rating :D



Ok, let's leave the HEV out then.. Sticking to the same specs, without HEV this time, any recommendations bro Herza ?
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"Osc13"

[quote="herzausstahl"]
I think you are right, it doesn't seem to exist. Why would you want a HEV? A SInn U1 doesn't need one, the Autozilla needs one, both are 1000M. An omega seamaster 300m has a HEV, a rolex submariner doesn't, and neither does an MM300. I'd infer that for the same depth rating, a case that doesn't require a HEV is superior to one that does. Únless the HEV is installed for aesthetic purposes given that it lends the watch some seriousness.... :mrgreen:


Why do we want an HEV is pretty much the same question with why do we want a rolex sea-dweller.. The only diving it's most likely to go through is desk diving, but it's still cool to have a divers with 1,000m depth rating :D



Ok, let's leave the HEV out then.. Sticking to the same specs, without HEV this time, any recommendations bro Herza ?[/quote]

I think the closest is the 1200T or 750T GMT as I mentioned earlier... :D Prices should be friendly. Current models also. The 750T GMT should be bigger than the 1200T, and I think you would want the bigger cased 750T GMT... it really brings out the orange and the cushion case. I'm iffy on the dual-crown of the 750T GMT, and iffy on the size of the 1200T. But if I were to pick one, 750T GMT, for my 6.75" wrist size.
okies8
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"watchlooker"

[quote="okies8"]
Ai molest mai?


Molested roo di di one before.... solid cushion case but what attract me about this one is the solid feel of the bezel which is on par with LM bezel. No harm to molest yours too... hehehe.... :mrgreen:[/quote]

i'm referg to PR meter huan :twisted:
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"okies8"

[quote="watchlooker"]


Molested roo di di one before.... solid cushion case but what attract me about this one is the solid feel of the bezel which is on par with LM bezel. No harm to molest yours too... hehehe.... :mrgreen:


i'm referg to PR meter huan :twisted:[/quote]

Waaah you have the PR meter huan?! Good stuff leh, what colour do you have?



We have more Doxa Sub owners here then we expected I think :lol:
okies8
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"herzausstahl"

[quote="okies8"]


i'm referg to PR meter huan :twisted:


Waaah you have the PR meter huan?! Good stuff leh, what colour do you have?



We have more Doxa Sub owners here then we expected I think :lol:[/quote]

not me, my fren huan & orangy...moi 1200T
Osc13
Re: Introduction to DOXA
Thx bro Herza for the perspective and insight.. Between the 2, I'm leaning towards the 750 GMT :)



My wrist is about 6,5' too, and I'm close to 1,9m in height, I could strap on 45mm or 46 fine but personally I like my watches to be around 42mm give or take 2mm (the DOXA fits the criteria just fine in my book) :D



Thx bro Herza
herzausstahl
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"Osc13"

Thx bro Herza for the perspective and insight.. Between the 2, I'm leaning towards the 750 GMT :)



My wrist is about 6,5' too, and I'm close to 1,9m in height, I could strap on 45mm or 46 fine but personally I like my watches to be around 42mm give or take 2mm (the DOXA fits the criteria just fine in my book) :D



Thx bro Herza


I'm also close to 1.9m in height.... if you round down :lol: :lol: :lol:
ivan
Introduction to DOXA

"herzausstahl"

[quote="Osc13"]Thx bro Herza for the perspective and insight.. Between the 2, I'm leaning towards the 750 GMT :)



My wrist is about 6,5' too, and I'm close to 1,9m in height, I could strap on 45mm or 46 fine but personally I like my watches to be around 42mm give or take 2mm (the DOXA fits the criteria just fine in my book) :D



Thx bro Herza


I'm also close to 1.9m in height.... if you round down :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

Yup. U r tall definitely.

Just curious, where do u source for DOXA? Can I find locally?

I m looking for the orange dial 1200T.







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Osc13
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"ivan"


Yup. U r tall definitely.

Just curious, where do u source for DOXA? Can I find locally?

I m looking for the orange dial 1200T.


According tot their website, they did appoint certain retailers for certain model in America.. Buyers out of that continent, gotta buy direct from them through their website
ivan
Introduction to DOXA

"Osc13"

[quote="ivan"]
Yup. U r tall definitely.

Just curious, where do u source for DOXA? Can I find locally?

I m looking for the orange dial 1200T.


According tot their website, they did appoint certain retailers for certain model in America.. Buyers out of that continent, gotta buy direct from them through their website[/quote]

Information received with thanks!

:)

:)







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herzausstahl
Introduction to DOXA
Direct from their website for us. I think payment must be via either paypal or TT. To some austrian bank...
watchlooker
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"okies8"

[quote="watchlooker"]


Molested roo di di one before.... solid cushion case but what attract me about this one is the solid feel of the bezel which is on par with LM bezel. No harm to molest yours too... hehehe.... :mrgreen:


i'm referg to PR meter huan :twisted:[/quote]

Wah... the PR one ahh.... where and when bro.... :mrgreen:



Nowaday... youngsters all tall one... unlike me... shortie... but stocky... hehehe... 6.5"wrist! :lol: :lol:
okies8
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"watchlooker"

[quote="okies8"]


i'm referg to PR meter huan :twisted:


Wah... the PR one ahh.... where and when bro.... :mrgreen:



Nowaday... youngsters all tall one... unlike me... shortie... but stocky... hehehe... 6.5"wrist! :lol: :lol:[/quote]

np la but hor mai give excuses for not cuming(on next gtg) or mai shortgun (when attendg) oni hor
silverguy
Re: Introduction to DOXA
Just wonder anyone can tell me why those Doxa aquaman are not listed in their website? Is it good to hoot one??
chromehead
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"silverguy"

Just wonder anyone can tell me why those Doxa aquaman are not listed in their website? Is it good to hoot one??




they are the ones that look like those using generic MIC cases. got slammed pretty bad when it first came out.



many felt that its design as a whole detracted largely from what makes DOXAs unique
ivan
Introduction to DOXA

"chromehead"

[quote="silverguy"]Just wonder anyone can tell me why those Doxa aquaman are not listed in their website? Is it good to hoot one??




they are the ones that look like those using generic MIC cases. got slammed pretty bad when it first came out.



many felt that its design as a whole detracted largely from what makes DOXAs unique[/quote]

Came across 1 and about to pull the trigger on the aquaman.

Now, I m having a second thought. :(







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chromehead
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"ivan"


Came across 1 and about to pull the trigger on the aquaman.

Now, I m having a second thought. :(







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disclaimer first: me not doxa pro, never touch doxa in my life, take it with 1 tbsp of salt



to me what makes a usual Doxa diver stand out amongst the dive watches out there is the combination of



hand styling: thin short hour hand, very fat and long minute hand, second hand with a square chunk

cushion case, organic smooth shape

off-center brand placement

unique depth+decomp bezel



using that you will notice the Aquaman is somewhat out of norm



but end of the day still personal preferences lah hehehe :lol:
ivan
Introduction to DOXA

"chromehead"

[quote="ivan"]
Came across 1 and about to pull the trigger on the aquaman.

Now, I m having a second thought. :(







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disclaimer first: me not doxa pro, never touch doxa in my life, take it with 1 tbsp of salt



to me what makes a usual Doxa diver stand out amongst the dive watches out there is the combination of



hand styling: thin short hour hand, very fat and long minute hand, second hand with a square chunk

cushion case, organic smooth shape

off-center brand placement

unique depth+decomp bezel



using that you will notice the Aquaman is somewhat out of norm



but end of the day still personal preferences lah hehehe :lol:[/quote]





Understood.

Now I know





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watchlooker
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"okies8"

[quote="watchlooker"]


Wah... the PR one ahh.... where and when bro.... :mrgreen:



Nowaday... youngsters all tall one... unlike me... shortie... but stocky... hehehe... 6.5"wrist! :lol: :lol:


np la but hor mai give excuses for not cuming(on next gtg) or mai shortgun (when attendg) oni hor[/quote]

:lol: :lol: sound like u know me hor.... but all these are not my intention lei..... to me nothing matter more than my family so I always put my family first.... so I try hard to come for gtg... since organise one also bo easy.... :oops: :oops:



You have not yet SIC yours.... :P
okies8
Re: Introduction to DOXA

"watchlooker"

[quote="okies8"]


np la but hor mai give excuses for not cuming(on next gtg) or mai shortgun (when attendg) oni hor


:lol: :lol: sound like u know me hor.... but all these are not my intention lei..... to me nothing matter more than my family so I always put my family first.... so I try hard to come for gtg... since organise one also bo easy.... :oops: :oops:



You have not yet SIC yours.... :P[/quote]

Akan datang
gasmancc
Re: Introduction to DOXA
any bro with 6.25" - 6.5" wrist can post some wrist shots of your doxa? :)