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Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

zhwong
Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono




Hi bros, i'm thinking of getting the watch above. Haven't really handled a handled a hamilton before, but i'm aching for a chrono and this looks really good with a customised H31 movement giving it a 60hr power reserve as opposed to the usual 42 on the 7750. The only thing holding me back is the resale value, which is pretty horrid for hamilton. Pls feel free to chime in bros. Thks
herzausstahl
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
I don't know how much this cost, but do know that probably for less, you can pick-up a good used 6138 or 6139 Seiko Chronograph (Bullhead, Helmet etc) from one of us here. And those have inherent value being column wheel vertical clutch chronographs. A good close example of a modern piece utilising the same would be the Rolex Daytona.



I'd give the hammy a wide berth, especially if it eats into my purchasing power for something else that i might really want.
zhwong
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
Thks for the info bro, haven't really gone to any ADs to check the hammy out yet, but i presume it will set me back ard 1.8k which is definitely more than a 6138 or 6139. Was aiming them a while back when looking for an affordable automatic chrono, but bro you mind explaining what makes a column wheel chronograph special?
Stupidbear
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
I would like to OT this thread since we're on hammy.



I recently handled a Belowzero.

http://www.hamiltonwatch.com/en/gents/khaki/navy/belowzero/H78585333" false;



Tempted but he wanted to trade my goldfish for it.



Any advice.
fireal
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
in general hamilton is quite bang for buck as far as swiss watches go , quite happy with most of mine.

even better if resale is poor , go get a second hand piece at a super low price then :lol:
zhwong
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
New model leh the chrono lol, no one selling yet sianzzz
zhwong
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"fireal"

in general hamilton is quite bang for buck as far as swiss watches go , quite happy with most of mine.

even better if resale is poor , go get a second hand piece at a super low price then :lol:


Which models do you have bro? mind sharing?
Ed.YEO
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
So far the only place where i encounter can see lots of auto Chronos on display, is @ Suntec city, the watch shop near Carrefour Entrance @ lvl2.



But i look at the list price, mostly very ex ley... SGD3~4k...u wan mehh...
socketer
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"zhwong"





Hi bros, i'm thinking of getting the watch above. Haven't really handled a handled a hamilton before, but i'm aching for a chrono and this looks really good with a customised H31 movement giving it a 60hr power reserve as opposed to the usual 42 on the 7750. The only thing holding me back is the resale value, which is pretty horrid for hamilton. Pls feel free to chime in bros. Thks

If the piece has weak retail value, then can consider a preowned piece???
Ed.YEO
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"Ed.YEO"

So far the only place where i encounter can see lots of auto Chronos on display, is @ Suntec city, the watch shop near Carrefour Entrance @ lvl2.

But i look at the list price, mostly very ex ley... SGD3~4k...u wan mehh...


SALAH guys... sorry for the wrong direction given. Aiyoyo... belum minum, mabuk liaoz...

I had mistaken about the thread talking about VICTORINOX AUTO CHRONO...



Anyway, if anyone of you're looking into the competitive brand against HAMILTON, VICTORINOX @ the address mentioned have the widest range of selection there. Price not low hor...
zhwong
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"socketer"


If the piece has weak retail value, then can consider a preowned piece???


Practically no preowned pieces for this particular model yet. Dunno is it cos its not popular or its so good that no one wants to sell it lol.
roo7
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
This looks like some kind of pilot design...



If I may, here's one that pretty similar, probably cheaper than a 6138/6139 but manual winding and non-quick set.





Poljot Buran 3133.
oOsiMm
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
certainly for most hammy the resale value sucks for 1st owner...but also means you can try getting a cheaper 2nd hand one esp for WUS or overseas forum..
herzausstahl
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"zhwong"

Thks for the info bro, haven't really gone to any ADs to check the hammy out yet, but i presume it will set me back ard 1.8k which is definitely more than a 6138 or 6139. Was aiming them a while back when looking for an affordable automatic chrono, but bro you mind explaining what makes a column wheel chronograph special?


What explanation I can deliver will not match what you get by simply googling "column wheel" and "vertical clutch". I think you will find a lot of pleasant and informative reads!
zhwong
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"herzausstahl"

What explanation I can deliver will not match what you get by simply googling "column wheel" and "vertical clutch". I think you will find a lot of pleasant and informative reads!


Haha lazy to search bro. Anyway to tap on ur chrono expertise, what would you say is a good price for speedmaster reduced on the 2nd hand market(Wah lau the bro so fast hoot ur one during ur sale, i see sold le damn sian). There's this guy on SG ROC selling one for 1900, comes with box and all. Do you think its an acceptable price. Thanks again bro



Oh and on another note, dropped by all watches at wisma after work to see the hamilton khaki pioneer chrono. Molest here and there, doesn't look as good as it does on photo and the reset button jam sia.... quoted 2156, presumably 15% off retail, so decided not worth it...
zhwong
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"roo7"

This looks like some kind of pilot design...



If I may, here's one that pretty similar, probably cheaper than a 6138/6139 but manual winding and non-quick set.





Poljot Buran 3133.


Thanks bro, If i were to go for a russian chrono would probably go for the strela. Was considering one a while back, went to red army watches to see see. Think they quoted in excess of 1k. Where would you say is the best place to buy one at the best price?
roo7
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
Basically they are technical terms, simply put, column wheel and vertical clutch chronographs are of better quality in terms of the overall movement design and technology.



In other words, they are typically more expensive than typical cam or lever actuated.



http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/column-wheel-vs-lever-actuated-chronograph-239859.html"http://jiehong.org/blog/2010/06/06/seiko-vintage-chronograph-6138-0011-the-ufo/" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://jiehong.org/blog/2010/06/06/seiko-vintage-chronograph-6138-0011-the-ufo/"http://www.horomundi.com/hm/chrono.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.horomundi.com/hm/chrono.html" false;
zhwong
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
Thanks bro. seems like this thread has deviated quite abit, time to rename Chrono love lol
roo7
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"zhwong"

[quote="roo7"]This looks like some kind of pilot design...



If I may, here's one that pretty similar, probably cheaper than a 6138/6139 but manual winding and non-quick set.





Poljot Buran 3133.


Thanks bro, If i were to go for a russian chrono would probably go for the strela. Was considering one a while back, went to red army watches to see see. Think they quoted in excess of 1k. Where would you say is the best place to buy one at the best price?[/quote]

US:

http://www.russia2all.com/poljot-strela-russian-chronograph/"http://www.m-watches.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.m-watches.com/"http://www.vostok-watches.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.vostok-watches.com/"http://www.poljot24.de/en/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.poljot24.de/en/index.html" false;



Lastly, pre-owned pieces from WUS or eBay
herzausstahl
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"zhwong"

[quote="herzausstahl"] What explanation I can deliver will not match what you get by simply googling "column wheel" and "vertical clutch". I think you will find a lot of pleasant and informative reads!


Haha lazy to search bro. Anyway to tap on ur chrono expertise, what would you say is a good price for speedmaster reduced on the 2nd hand market(Wah lau the bro so fast hoot ur one during ur sale, i see sold le damn sian). There's this guy on SG ROC selling one for 1900, comes with box and all. Do you think its an acceptable price. Thanks again bro[/quote]

Good price is my price loh. :lol: :lol: :lol: If you wish to pay extra S$600 for the box and all, you have to decide if it is worth the extra outlay. Remember that this is not a COSC chronometer (chronometer and chronograph different things hor), so there is no certificate that you're missing out on if you buy without box and "papers". I've put out more stuff for sale, perhaps you can have a look. (<==== sales plug again :mrgreen: )
fireal
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
got 3-4k meh??!



X-copter sells about 1.5k

khaki auto about 400 usd

khaki quartz abt 200 usd





so far for modern ones i had just a khaki quartz , khaki auto titanium

and about 15 hamilton vintage watches n pocket watches, hamilton electronic , thin o matic , masterpiece , nautilus, gs, etc
herzausstahl
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
Currently this is the only Hamilton I really want.



fireal
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono
nice x-wind!



this is the one i want though

lunarin79
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"fireal"

nice x-wind!



this is the one i want though



look like alien :|
roo7
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"lunarin79"

[quote="fireal"]nice x-wind!



this is the one i want though



look like alien :|[/quote]

look like fossil :lol:
Astro2212
Re: Hamilton Khaki Pioneer Auto Chrono

"fireal"

nice x-wind!



this is the one i want though


Looks lik jackport 2 me