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'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome

socketer
'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
How many times have you though you have laid ur hands on this grail, and told yourself 'this ones a keeper, never flipping it'.



Or have you said 'okay last watch, gotta be faithful'.



To be frank I've never thought of any watch as the last, but have sillily thought some watches which I've owned previously are so value-for-$$ that I'll never flip. Sinn u1, omega aqua terra, seiko sumo, explorer (1)... All are great value for what I paid, but preferences do change, and interests die. In the process I've lost quite some $$ cause some are brought from dealers.



The is only one watch which I dare say I'm keeping, but that's cause it's a gift from my mother...



What's your story? Any definite keepers?
CoolieND
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
You mean, like every single one of mine? :mrgreen: ... Second part only I mean. I've never gotten to a last watch, though I'm feeling like I must be getting closer..... ;)
lunarin79
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
a common symptom for most WIS, it's just another reason for us to continue to hoot another watch.



I've got so many 'Oh, my grail watch!' & when I finally laid hands to it, after wearing a while, the kick dies off & the 'flipping' syndrome kicks in, dats y u guys see my sales post in Buy/Sell Section,lol. tbh, I flipped more of my Swiss than Jap watches ;)



Definitely lose a lot of $$ due to flipping but my CO already set a rule 'Old No Go, New No Come' :(



So far those models which I had flipped last time(3-4yrs ago) & re purchased back again, to me, those are consider the final keepers. They are mainly the 6138s.



Another box of keepers are my vintage seiko dress watches :)



Lastly, it's those watches that were bought by my CO



In summary, my keepers are the seiko vintage dress watches, divers & 6138 chronographs :)
fireal
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
Its like marriage.....some people bored of partner go find pika
kymwatchlog
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
i thought of that too. bought mm300 and tuna emperor telling myself i have reach the top liao and never going to sell. in the end i decide to keep the one i always wear and wear most often ie the mm300. my tuna emperor is currently on hold for a buyer liao.



in my view, don't be like me too fast jump to conclusion that that is a keeper. keeper naturally comes out when after all your flips she is still there. not so much of value but more of rarity and even more if there is emotional strings attached.



for me, a keeper may not be a wearer but a wearer is definitely a keeper (as every so often wear, it becomes so comfy and part of u). i regreted selling my black mako long time ago as it stayed with me when i switch career from engineer to banking. so nicely worn with the battle scars. brand new mako don't have that flavor somehow...



i have these keepers (confirmed) for now. watches come and go but these six will stay.



(1) Tissot le Locle - my 1st mechanical watch and the watch that reminds me of my days as a civil engineer as i wore her everyday then...



(2) Oris classic small secs pointer date - bought during my honeymoon in Italy/Switzerland, warranty card is stamped Geneva and dated.



(3) My first Rolex sub



(4) My dad's first Oris



(5) My dad's first Rolex



(6) My late grandfather's Rado



I love my other watches; swiss and jap and don't intend to sell but one can never know and don't say too early!
lunarin79
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome

"fireal"

Its like marriage.....some people bored of partner go find pika


diam diam rah :evil: :evil:
ivan
'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
Words of wisdom....
silverguy
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
I guess I will keep watches with sentimental values and passed on to my kids if there are any... :roll: :roll:
big-e-294
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
When I get my mm300 I wouldnt flip and it will definitely won't be my last.
herzausstahl
On "last watch"....
I'm happy to report that I'm cured of the "last watch" syndrome. With increasing age, I don't see the point of a "last watch".

For me (and perhaps many brothers here), buying a watch serves many purposes. Some purchases are celebratory, while others commemorative. Some purchases are mechanical, while others are emotive. When I'm stressed I also tend to buy watches. And then there are those I genuinely wish to collect. And all these drivers of behaviour overlap.

Hence, no "last watch" for me.
big-e-294
Re: On "last watch"....

"herzausstahl"

I'm happy to report that I'm cured of the "last watch" syndrome. With increasing age, I don't see the point of a "last watch".

For me (and perhaps many brothers here), buying a watch serves many purposes. Some purchases are celebratory, while others commemorative. Some purchases are mechanical, while others are emotive. When I'm stressed I also tend to buy watches. And then there are those I genuinely wish to collect. And all these drivers of behaviour overlap.

Hence, no "last watch" for me.


Very well put, bro.

I think I buy (atleast look at more) watches when I am stressed.
herzausstahl
On "flipping"....
When family and work allow, I try my best to sell some of my watches. I think what I'm trying to do is to reduce clutter, "sharpen" the collection "focus", and to recover some of the outlay. The most satisfying sale is when the right watch goes to the right buyer.
herzausstahl
Re: On "last watch"....

"big-e-294"

[quote="herzausstahl"]I'm happy to report that I'm cured of the "last watch" syndrome. With increasing age, I don't see the point of a "last watch".

For me (and perhaps many brothers here), buying a watch serves many purposes. Some purchases are celebratory, while others commemorative. Some purchases are mechanical, while others are emotive. When I'm stressed I also tend to buy watches. And then there are those I genuinely wish to collect. And all these drivers of behaviour overlap.

Hence, no "last watch" for me.


Very well put, bro.

I think I buy (atleast look at more) watches when I am stressed.[/quote]

Me too. Beats binging on fatty food. It's easier to flip impulse purchases than lose weight. :lol:
watchlooker
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
Last watch never cross my mind..... flip only when in the mood LOL.... :lol: :lol:



Seriously.... flipping only occurs when I feel I had enough of it.... and some I didn't even get to wear.... :shock:
socketer
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome

"CoolieND"

You mean, like every single one of mine? :mrgreen: ... Second part only I mean. I've never gotten to a last watch, though I'm feeling like I must be getting closer..... ;)


hehehe when you finally arrive at your grail, you will have another grail... never ending de










"lunarin79"





Another box of keepers are my vintage seiko dress watches :)



Lastly, it's those watches that were bought by my CO



In summary, my keepers are the seiko vintage dress watches, divers & 6138 chronographs :)


flipping vintages, is the damage bad? or do you earn $$$? usually $500 vintage buy liao wear 6 mths, can sell how much leh?
socketer
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome

"kymwatchlog"

i thought of that too. bought mm300 and tuna emperor telling myself i have reach the top liao and never going to sell. in the end i decide to keep the one i always wear and wear most often ie the mm300. my tuna emperor is currently on hold for a buyer liao.



in my view, don't be like me too fast jump to conclusion that that is a keeper. keeper naturally comes out when after all your flips she is still there. not so much of value but more of rarity and even more if there is emotional strings attached.



for me, a keeper may not be a wearer but a wearer is definitely a keeper (as every so often wear, it becomes so comfy and part of u). i regreted selling my black mako long time ago as it stayed with me when i switch career from engineer to banking. so nicely worn with the battle scars. brand new mako don't have that flavor somehow...



i have these keepers (confirmed) for now. watches come and go but these six will stay.



(1) Tissot le Locle - my 1st mechanical watch and the watch that reminds me of my days as a civil engineer as i wore her everyday then...



(2) Oris classic small secs pointer date - bought during my honeymoon in Italy/Switzerland, warranty card is stamped Geneva and dated.



(3) My first Rolex sub



(4) My dad's first Oris



(5) My dad's first Rolex



(6) My late grandfather's Rado



I love my other watches; swiss and jap and don't intend to sell but one can never know and don't say too early!


My rollie is a keeper because it reminds me of my late mum. Another keeper is an omega vintage because it accompanied my father when he was young
socketer
Re: On "last watch"....

"herzausstahl"

[quote="big-e-294"]


Very well put, bro.

I think I buy (atleast look at more) watches when I am stressed.


Me too. Beats binging on fatty food. It's easier to flip impulse purchases than lose weight. :lol:[/quote]
i also buy watches when i'm stressed. but after buying i'll go feast to celebrate the purchase
lunarin79
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome

"socketer"




flipping vintages, is the damage bad? or do you earn $$$? usually $500 vintage buy liao wear 6 mths, can sell how much leh?


95% at a loss



3% break even



2% profit



:lol:
kymwatchlog
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome

"socketer"




flipping vintages, is the damage bad? or do you earn $$$? usually $500 vintage buy liao wear 6 mths, can sell how much leh?


vintage watches if u can show that you are the only one who has it, internet not much info, then can make a profit.



my best vintage flips:



1. bought at S$100, sold at US$350 iirc

2. bought at S$200, sold at US$480 iirc



other than these two, the rest all break even or loss.



to me, a bit loss is better than total loss (being stuck with one watch forever). a bit loss you still can top up and get another u like. not so siong.
fireal
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
watches are a bad investment la... dont think too much of buying and selling.. just buy what u like





the only way to profit is if you manage to snag it cheap.. and resell

but then again that applies to any other kind of item



like if u kio tio a used underwear and post on ebay and 1 sick btss want to pay $100usd for it then :o lor







my vintage watches mostly buy at a premium because i look for those tip top condition , unless i sell to another collector that wants it badly if not is lugi one...
oOsiMm
Re: 'Last watch' & 'never flip' syndrome
to me ,we cant keep watches till eternity,someday we have to part with them..so enjoy the good times .And all watches are flippable less those with strong strong sentimental value. last watch isnt possible for a watch collector.. :P



watch collecting is a journey to learn from mistakes,differentiate frakens,fakes from good watches,learn abt good quality watches,movements,brands history, good seller/buyership ,building your positive reputation as a watch collector etc..not just buy n buy and solely depending on reputation of seller or watchshop.



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