Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863 — Seiko Club Singapore Museum

aiken74

2011-09-14 01:12 UTC

Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

Hi SC bros, I nd help on tis Omega speed pro as I google thru Omega website n eyein on tis 2 pcs... ;)

http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/speedmaster/professional/35735000"http://www.omegarolex.com/details/01861.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.omegarolex.com/details/01861.html"http://www.omegarolex.com/details/01863.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.omegarolex.com/details/01863.html" false;

can anyhuan input more info wit ur knowledge or expertise on tis 2 1861 & 1863 movement n Hesalite & Sapphire xtal...thk in advance... ;)

oOsiMm

2011-09-14 02:38 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

1863 movt should be more elaborated..decorated since its seen with display caseback but 1861 normally with normal caseback.

After googling...here's what I got;

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=msg&th=1375990&start=0&rid=0#msg_num_2"http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/speedy-pro-1861-1863-hesalite-vs-saphire-71616.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/speedy-pro-1861-1863-hesalite-vs-saphire-71616.html"http://jholbrook.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Talk&action=print&thread=4142" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://jholbrook.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Talk&action=print&thread=4142"Seventeen".

Apparently Omega put "Eighteen" on all the rhodium bridges and included the 18th on the 1861 as well as the 1863.

http://www.chronocentric.com/forums/omega/index.cgi?md=read;id=50" false;

Speedmaster Pro 1861 vs. 1863, what a brochure just in from Omega tells me both movements have 18 jewels, 45 hour power reserve, 21.6 frequency, and are based on the Lemania 1873 calibre. It further says both have white rhodium plated traditional chronograph movements with special waves. It describes the 1863 movement as 'deluxe version with additional waves.

aiken74

2011-09-14 04:03 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

thk oOsiMm bro 4 de input...it seem that gt pro & cons 4 both 1861 & 1863 movt...

Pro 4 1863...

1863 hab de extra jewel.

1863 has an added extra jewel n de metal brake ish used 4 de chronograph mechanism

1863 movement more pleasing 2 look @^@

1863 movement as 'deluxe version wit additional waves.

1863 movt shd b more elaborated..decorated since its seen wit display caseback

Cons 4 1863...

dnside 2 usin a metal brake in that it does wear down over time n require oiling n oso nd 2 pay 2 replace de metal brake aft many yrs of use n servicing.

1861...

1861 hab de extra jewel.

the nylon break in de 1861 movement does nt wear dn

1861 normally wit normal caseback

btw i oso notis that 1861 ish usin Hesalite & 1863 ish usin Sapphire...it seem rike Hesalite ish much more better than Sapphire aft read tis link...

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f45/omega-speedmaster-hesalite-crystal-108.html" false;

iV3RsOn

2011-09-14 05:09 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

aiken kor kor going to hoot Omega????

aiken74

2011-09-14 05:13 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"iV3RsOn"
aiken kor kor going to hoot Omega????

might hab a chance 2 hoot huan either 1861 or 1863... ;)

MeePokMan

2011-09-14 05:41 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"aiken74"
[quote="iV3RsOn"]aiken kor kor going to hoot Omega????

might hab a chance 2 hoot huan either 1861 or 1863... ;)[/quote]

aiken is also elite.

now i moody..have no spare $$ to hoot omega. :(

aiken74

2011-09-14 05:54 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"MeePokMan"
[quote="aiken74"]

might hab a chance 2 hoot huan either 1861 or 1863... ;)

aiken is also elite.

now i moody..have no spare $$ to hoot omega. :([/quote]

bo elite la...btw jz call THG 2 chk on tis...

speed pro

ref:3570.50.00 usin cal.1861 retail price ish 5,900 b4 discount

ref:3573.50.00 usin cal.1863 no stock

ref:311.30.42.30.01.003 aka "Apollo 15" 40th Anniversary Limited Edition usin cal.1861 retail price ish 7,750 b4 discount

iV3RsOn

2011-09-14 07:08 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"aiken74"
[quote="MeePokMan"]

aiken is also elite.

now i moody..have no spare $$ to hoot omega. :(

bo elite la...btw jz call THG 2 chk on tis...

speed pro

ref:3570.50.00 usin cal.1861 retail price ish 5,900 b4 discount

ref:3573.50.00 usin cal.1863 no stock

ref:311.30.42.30.01.003 aka "Apollo 15" 40th Anniversary Limited Edition usin cal.1861 retail price ish 7,750 b4 discount[/quote]

1861 how many % dicount???

aiken74

2011-09-14 07:13 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"iV3RsOn"
[quote="aiken74"]

bo elite la...btw jz call THG 2 chk on tis...

speed pro

ref:3570.50.00 usin cal.1861 retail price ish 5,900 b4 discount

ref:3573.50.00 usin cal.1863 no stock

ref:311.30.42.30.01.003 aka "Apollo 15" 40th Anniversary Limited Edition usin cal.1861 retail price ish 7,750 b4 discount

1861 how many % dicount???[/quote]

de saleman tel me go dn thn give discount bt hor moi CO noe sumone in THG n can gt more discount... 8-) i alr sms her n nw wait 4 leply... :mrgreen:

Astro2212

2011-09-14 07:21 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

:shock: wah u also SELL POTATO 1 hor???me eat til 30+yr old haven go thg b4 leh...:)

aiken74

2011-09-14 07:27 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"Astro2212"
:shock: wah u also SELL POTATO 1 hor???me eat til 30+yr old haven go thg b4 leh...:)

NB...mai tok cock lah...thn where ur gt ur all ur lolex sub...frm BKK izzit :?: :?:

Astro2212

2011-09-14 07:31 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"aiken74"
[quote="Astro2212"]:shock: wah u also SELL POTATO 1 hor???me eat til 30+yr old haven go thg b4 leh...:)

NB...mai tok cock lah...thn where ur gt ur all ur lolex sub...frm BKK izzit :?: :?:[/quote]
Knn all pre-owned leh... :lol:

aiken74

2011-09-14 07:37 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

okok mai OT liao... :oops:

which huan better 1861 or 1863 :?: :?:

in term of movement & 1861 wit Hesalite xtal or 1863 wit Sapphire xtal :?: :?:

lunarin79

2011-09-14 07:41 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"aiken74"
okok mai OT liao... :oops:

which huan better 1861 or 1863 :?: :?:

in term of movement & 1861 wit Hesalite xtal or 1863 wit Sapphire xtal :?: :?:

hesalite crystal will have a signed omega logo on it, sapphire dun have :lol:

aiken74

2011-09-14 07:46 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"lunarin79"
[quote="aiken74"]okok mai OT liao... :oops:

which huan better 1861 or 1863 :?: :?:

in term of movement & 1861 wit Hesalite xtal or 1863 wit Sapphire xtal :?: :?:

hesalite crystal will have a signed omega logo on it, sapphire dun have :lol:[/quote]

bro which mean 3570.50.00 usin 1861 hab de signed omega logo on hesalite xtal :?: :?: n oso read up tis link...sayin that

http://www.omega-addict.com/movement.html" false;

The current production of cal.861's uses a plastic part, which is not showed in the cal.861 movement below. The Speedmaster Professional which have the see-through case-back, use a Cal. 863. This is a cal.861 which was a bit restyled for better looks. The plastic part has disapeard in the cal. 863. Ofcourse ;-)

aiken74

2011-09-14 09:55 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

update as moi ctc in THG mention that tmr 15/9 there will b a increase of price of branded watches up to 6%.... :twisted: :twisted:

Speed pro Ref: 3570.50.00 was given 18% off...so $4,850... :mrgreen:

iV3RsOn

2011-09-14 10:15 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"aiken74"
update as moi ctc in THG mention that tmr 15/9 there will b a increase of price of branded watches up to 6%.... :twisted: :twisted:

Speed pro Ref: 3570.50.00 was given 18% off...so $4,850... :mrgreen:

wats so gd abt hesalite crystal???

nb, they increase price like no tml lor.... 18% ish alot!!!!

aiken74

2011-09-14 12:12 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"iV3RsOn"
[quote="aiken74"]update as moi ctc in THG mention that tmr 15/9 there will b a increase of price of branded watches up to 6%.... :twisted: :twisted:

Speed pro Ref: 3570.50.00 was given 18% off...so $4,850... :mrgreen:

wats so gd abt hesalite crystal???

nb, they increase price like no tml lor.... 18% ish alot!!!![/quote]

here de link...

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f45/omega-speedmaster-hesalite-crystal-108.html" false;

hmm she told me that other pl will oni give up to 8% discount... :evil:

watchlooker

2011-09-14 12:22 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

IMO.... 1861 is better in the long run .... but hor service and parts are all readily available from Omega... bo si mi difference........ to 1863.... so it boil down to which one you prefer most cosmetically!! ;)

aiken74

2011-09-14 12:25 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"watchlooker"
IMO.... 1861 is better in the long run .... but hor service and parts are all readily available from Omega... bo si mi difference........ to 1863.... so it boil down to which one you prefer most cosmetically!! ;)

thk bro...i stil prefer 1861 n will make a reserve soon... :mrgreen:

watchlooker

2011-09-14 12:28 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

Make sure must have all the papers and box.... good luck! ;) Oh... one more thing... must include polywatch!

If you dun mind about all these documents..... Tampines Cash Converter got one 1861 going for $4200 after discount! :lol: :lol:

aiken74

2011-09-14 12:39 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"watchlooker"
Make sure must have all the papers and box.... good luck! ;) Oh... one more thing... must include polywatch!

If you dun mind about all these documents..... Tampines Cash Converter got one 1861 going for $4200 after discount! :lol: :lol:

bro wat ish polywatch???

watchlooker

2011-09-14 12:42 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

Polywatch is a freebie to polish your plastic crystal of 1861..... :lol: :lol:

aiken74

2011-09-14 12:44 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"watchlooker"
Polywatch is a freebie to polish your plastic crystal of 1861..... :lol: :lol:

:oops: :oops: noted paisai newbird lah... :oops:

watchlooker

2011-09-14 12:47 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"aiken74"
[quote="watchlooker"]Polywatch is a freebie to polish your plastic crystal of 1861..... :lol: :lol:

:oops: :oops: noted paisai newbird lah... :oops:[/quote]

No need paisei lah.... must ask for it otherwise they dun give one..... :evil:

aiken74

2011-09-14 12:59 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

sure will ask THG 2 give de polywatch...bte moi ctc told me that speed pro 3570.50.00 jz increase by $50 so de new retail price will b $5,950 by tmr... :twisted:

oso ask moi ctc 2 chk whether gt stock anot n hopfully can hoot huan by tis sat btw i'm nt de huan payin... :mrgreen:

watchlooker

2011-09-14 13:10 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

Dun forget.... your CO money is also your money mah..... :lol: :lol:

aiken74

2011-09-14 13:17 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"watchlooker"
Dun forget.... your CO money is also your money mah..... :lol: :lol:

lol..ya i noe bt she wanna 2 hoot 4 me as birddae present... 8-)

iV3RsOn

2011-09-14 14:19 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"aiken74"
[quote="watchlooker"]Dun forget.... your CO money is also your money mah..... :lol: :lol:

lol..ya i noe bt she wanna 2 hoot 4 me as birddae present... 8-)[/quote]

both u and ur CO elite!!!!

aiken74

2011-09-14 14:25 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"iV3RsOn"
[quote="aiken74"]

lol..ya i noe bt she wanna 2 hoot 4 me as birddae present... 8-)

both u and ur CO elite!!!![/quote]

moi co dun noe abt watch huan bt hor she oni noe Lolex wit diamond n that wil cost a bomb de... :(

Me boon bo elite huan as 4 tis speed pro that I ish eyein 4 tis belly rong time liao n so happen that moi co hab lobang thn Mai tu liao hoot lah... :mrgreen: btw moi ctc ish chk on de stock n if hab thn wil hoot by tis sat... ;)

Astro2212

2011-09-14 14:37 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

Wah die die must let me molest hor bo 朋友做到这条线... :lol:

So ur CO is lik lolec with diamond n ong lye kwan type...Good!!!

aiken74

2011-09-14 14:52 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"Astro2212"
Wah die die must let me molest hor bo 朋友做到这条线... :lol:

So ur CO is lik lolec with diamond n ong lye kwan type...Good!!!

Okok wil let chiu molest bt nw musk c gt stock anot... ;)

aiken74

2011-09-15 05:19 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"watchlooker"
[quote="aiken74"]

:oops: :oops: noted paisai newbird lah... :oops:

No need paisei lah.... must ask for it otherwise they dun give one..... :evil:[/quote]

jz sms moi ctc in THG as they dun shell bt she will chk whether can give anot...bt will keep size ko her to give as FOC... :D

watchlooker

2011-09-16 02:41 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"aiken74"
[quote="watchlooker"]

No need paisei lah.... must ask for it otherwise they dun give one..... :evil:

jz sms moi ctc in THG as they dun shell bt she will chk whether can give anot...bt will keep size ko her to give as FOC... :D[/quote]

Tio.... see... must ask then have.... otherwise bo give u one..... ;)

aiken74

2011-09-16 02:52 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"watchlooker"
[quote="aiken74"]

jz sms moi ctc in THG as they dun shell bt she will chk whether can give anot...bt will keep size ko her to give as FOC... :D

Tio.... see... must ask then have.... otherwise bo give u one..... ;)[/quote]

Die die musk ask THG 2 give n wil collect it by tmr... :mrgreen:

iV3RsOn

2011-09-16 06:01 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"aiken74"
[quote="watchlooker"]

Tio.... see... must ask then have.... otherwise bo give u one..... ;)

Die die musk ask THG 2 give n wil collect it by tmr... :mrgreen:[/quote]

wahhh really fhfl!!!

watchlooker

2011-09-17 03:24 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"iV3RsOn"

wahhh really fhfl!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: he buay tahan liaoz.....

Astro2212

2011-09-17 10:49 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

Lol the venom king kana poisoned jialard jialard... :lol:

aiken74

2011-09-17 11:08 UTC

Re: Omega cal. 1861 vs 1863

"Astro2212"
Lol the venom king kana poisoned jialard jialard... :lol:

Ya jialard liao...nw hab dine at tonkichi taka... :twisted: btw I heard frm moi ctc that lolex explorer 2 ish gg 2 discon liao mayb by end of tis yrs n nw de retail price ish shellin at 9,100... ;)